(WIP) Destabilizing the deck gun in SH 5

Rubini · 03-12-12, 01:19 PM

Like these ones?

Rongel · 03-12-12, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubini

Like these ones?

Wowzer!

You did it? It works, any side effects?

I still remember all the hours i banged my head against the wall with this... Great work Rubini!

Details please

Rubini · 03-12-12, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rongel

Wowzer!

You did it? It works, any side effects?

I still remember all the hours i banged my head against the wall with this... Great work Rubini!

Details please

No, isn´t working correctly (yet at least). I was able to destabilized it but...or the camera is fixed and just the cannon moves, or the camera moves and the cannon is fixed. I guess that is just a matter to find a best (and correct) cameras nodes sequence(hierarchie)...I was very tired, late night, when i achieve the above some days ago. We can work on it again. I will try to find my files and will post here for our discussion.

Rongel · 03-13-12, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubini

No, isn´t working correctly (yet at least). I was able to destabilized it but...or the camera is fixed and just the cannon moves, or the camera moves and the cannon is fixed. I guess that is just a matter to find a best (and correct) cameras nodes sequence(hierarchie)...I was very tired, late night, when i achieve the above some days ago. We can work on it again. I will try to find my files and will post here for our discussion.

Yes, I think that the hierarchy is the key point. Just basicly a lot of testing...
If I have time I could also look into this, when I first tried this I didn't know anything about modding...

Adriatico · 03-13-12, 07:30 AM

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally, someone has tackled this problem!

I just can't believe that this "immersion breaker" was not in the spotlight of moding community earlier.

Best wishes for your work

...and keep us informed on progress.

03-14-12, 06:56 PM

Interesting thread.

Before GWX 2 or 3? We tested a VERY unstable Deck Gun mod I did.
We turned it down as we felt many would not like the whole feel of it.
It seems your looking for the same effect or close to it.
I'm pretty sure I deleted the files but I'll see if I can find more info for you, or try to remember what I did.

Rubini · 03-14-12, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Interesting thread.

Before GWX 2 or 3? We tested a VERY unstable Deck Gun mod I did.
We turned it down as we felt many would not like the whole feel of it.
It seems your looking for the same effect or close to it.
I'm pretty sure I deleted the files but I'll see if I can find more info for you, or try to remember what I did.

Thanks to look at this too privateer!

Sammi79 · 03-15-12, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubini

No, isn´t working correctly (yet at least). I was able to destabilized it but...or the camera is fixed and just the cannon moves, or the camera moves and the cannon is fixed. I guess that is just a matter to find a best (and correct) cameras nodes sequence(hierarchie)...I was very tired, late night, when i achieve the above some days ago. We can work on it again. I will try to find my files and will post here for our discussion.

It looks like you managed to achieve exactly what I managed in SH4 using Silent 3ditor. The camera is now destabilised, was it done by changing the linking heirachy (or bones or whatever you call them in SH5) of the camera object?

The problem I encountered was that the elevation of the gun itself is (in SH4) performed by the MoveCannon (or AimCannon? i forget) controller which is an .ACT file, and I have neither the skills or knowledge or more pertinently legal right to disassemble this file to see if it is possible to alter this - without this controller the auto elevation is gone but so is the ability to move the gun at all. I settled in the end for a work around from another earlier modder that being setting the rate of elevation so low that it could not keep up with the pitch/roll of the boat.

Check Sobers post he has set the elevation rate to 0.75 - you could also try lower I think I settled on about 0.4 in SH4 but it does then require significant time for the elevation to change when setting range. Also note that although the auto elevation is hampered it is still there and still needs to be taken into account when aiming - my approach was to adjust the camera position so you could see when the gun barrel stopped moving or changed its direction giving me the exact firing time for the set range.

Regards, Sam.

Adriatico · 03-21-12, 08:58 AM

Any progress, news.... estimations ?

Rubini · 03-21-12, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Adriatico

Any progress, news.... estimations ?

Not from me, for now. I'm very busy in RL for some days ahead, but will come back to the issue ASAP.

03-12-12, 01:19 PM	#1
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Like these ones? __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-13-12, 07:30 AM	#5
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally, someone has tackled this problem! I just can't believe that this "immersion breaker" was not in the spotlight of moding community earlier. Best wishes for your work ...and keep us informed on progress. __________________

03-21-12, 08:58 AM	#9
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Any progress, news.... estimations ? __________________

03-14-12, 06:56 PM	#6
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Interesting thread. Before GWX 2 or 3? We tested a VERY unstable Deck Gun mod I did. We turned it down as we felt many would not like the whole feel of it. It seems your looking for the same effect or close to it. I'm pretty sure I deleted the files but I'll see if I can find more info for you, or try to remember what I did.