The real issue at hand in the Limbaugh/Fluke controversy

gimpy117 · 03-08-12, 11:51 PM

either which way; just because it's covered by the institution does not mean you have to use them. If people are morally opposed, it should be their decision to use or not use said products. I think it's a slippery slope when we let "moral judgement" decide whats covered and whats not. It's such a subjective thing, especially when you are in effect letting another party decide whats going to happen to YOUR body...especially when this is a take it or leave it health care situation...students don't have money to pay for health care ( i know i sure don't).

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Well said. The problem with Obama's current health care "reform" mess is that it was written by the health insurance industry to do exactly what you said - have the government hold you down while the insurance industry robs you. The bill was written by Liz Fowler, the ex-VP of Wellpoint insurance. To solve it, I'm not sure what to do. I guess a good start would be to take profit motive out of the equation. Not because the government could do it so much better, but because the insurance companies do it so much worse.

Government for the corporation, by the corporation is alive and well in America.

well yes, I think 3 things would work; in descending order on what i think is best:
1. Universal health care
2. take out profit motive
3. get rid of the bill

But something needs to change because I think your health is something that nobody SHOULD EVER make profit off of, especially when it's mandated. It's really not a fair market, healthcare is all too often emergency situations and shopping around for the best deal is not something that's often an option, If I'm in a car wreck with a broken neck, I'm not gonna talk to the ambulance drivers about their rates, or read information compairing hospital prices in the city, I'm going to get the nearest ambulance and go to the nearest hospital AT ANY price...because my life is on the line. And that pretty much shoots the free market in the foot.

August · 03-09-12, 03:58 PM

Just lovely.

I get a letter from Blue Cross today telling me that as of April 1st they will no longer cover my Lipitor prescription. I guess i'll just have to do without it. Isn't mandatory health care insurance just grand?

mookiemookie · 03-09-12, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Just lovely.

I get a letter from Blue Cross today telling me that as of April 1st they will no longer cover my Lipitor prescription. I guess i'll just have to do without it. Isn't mandatory health care insurance just grand?

Didn't Lipitor just go generic? They won't even cover that?

August · 03-09-12, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Didn't Lipitor just go generic? They won't even cover that?

I don't know. The letter just says to talk to my doctor to see if there is an alternate medication.

vienna · 03-09-12, 06:21 PM

The insurance company is probably responding to the Lipitor "co-pay" situation. Once the generic forms were given the go ahead, Pfizer, the maker of Lipitor tried lowering its prices, but was unable to compete with the $4 generics. So they devised the "$4 dollar co-pay". But the lower price comes with conditions that may be what has caused your insurer to balk:

http://myhealthcafe.com/pfizer-offer...ood-to-be-true

August · 03-09-12, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

The insurance company is probably responding to the Lipitor "co-pay" situation. Once the generic forms were given the go ahead, Pfizer, the maker of Lipitor tried lowering its prices, but was unable to compete with the $4 generics. So they devised the "$4 dollar co-pay". But the lower price comes with conditions that may be what has caused your insurer to balk:

http://myhealthcafe.com/pfizer-offer...ood-to-be-true

So while they fight it out amongst themselves i'm stuck with a cheap copy.

krashkart · 03-09-12, 06:23 PM

The hardcore flaming right has come to Rush's defense.

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mookiemookie · 03-09-12, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

The hardcore flaming right has come to Rush's defense.

NSFW - http://www.defendrush.org

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frau kaleun · 03-09-12, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

The hardcore flaming right has come to Rush's defense.

NSFW - http://www.defendrush.org

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Blood_splat · 03-09-12, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

The hardcore flaming right has come to Rush's defense.

NSFW - http://www.defendrush.org

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03-09-12, 03:58 PM	#2
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,217 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just lovely. I get a letter from Blue Cross today telling me that as of April 1st they will no longer cover my Lipitor prescription. I guess i'll just have to do without it. Isn't mandatory health care insurance just grand? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,718 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The insurance company is probably responding to the Lipitor "co-pay" situation. Once the generic forms were given the go ahead, Pfizer, the maker of Lipitor tried lowering its prices, but was unable to compete with the $4 generics. So they devised the "$4 dollar co-pay". But the lower price comes with conditions that may be what has caused your insurer to balk: http://myhealthcafe.com/pfizer-offer...ood-to-be-true __________________ __________________________________________________ __

03-09-12, 06:23 PM	#7
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	The hardcore flaming right has come to Rush's defense. NSFW - http://www.defendrush.org .