Another pirate attack and this one is bad

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by vienna

Even if there is a sort of "safe room", in a prolonged incident (and it appears some crews are held by pirates for months), the crew would eventually have to come out just out of hunger, thirst, or unlivable conditions...

If some of the crew do not make it to the safe room, then it fails. The pirates has hostages now. If they do all make it to a safe room there is nothing stopping the Marines from bording and retaking the ship because the crew is out of harms way.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

If some of the crew do not make it to the safe room, then it fails. The pirates has hostages now. If they do all make it to a safe room there is nothing stopping the Marines from bording and retaking the ship because the crew is out of harms way.

I didn't realize the Enterprise had such a slow computer.

On a serious note, we've had this discussion before, with all of the ships in the World's navies, I'm kinda surprized they haven't started some sort of convoy system. Plus, nothing beats actual combat for training, you'd think every navy would be in their fighting pirates. You getta shoot live ammo and sink stuff.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I didn't realize the Enterprise had such a slow computer.

What did you expect? The thing ran on gameboy cartrages after all.

On a serious note, we've had this discussion before, with all of the ships in the World's navies, I'm kinda surprized they haven't started some sort of convoy system. Plus, nothing beats actual combat for training, you'd think every navy would be in their fighting pirates. You getta shoot live ammo and sink stuff.

They are running some convoys but there are a lot of ships out there and not everyone likes to cooperate.

[Jimbuna]

The convoy system is definitely the best way forward IMHO but IIRC the companies of the merchantmen would then be required to pay for the escorts and that is a price they are unwilling to meet.

The only way that would happen would be if the insurers made it a requirement.

The next stage will probably be armed personnel aboard the merchantmen...a step I suspect that has already been taken by some shipping companies but not been made public for docking permissions in some ports etc.

[nikimcbee]

I wish they would do something like the Q-ship concept. If you got enough of them out there killing/sinking pirates (NOT arresting them), you might cuase enough doubt in the pirates mind to think twice about raiding a ship.

Buy some old merchant ship, load it up with country X's special forces, let them loose in African waters. Pay a bonus for every pirate ship destroyed.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I wish they would do something like the Q-ship concept. If you got enough of them out there killing/sinking pirates (NOT arresting them), you might cuase enough doubt in the pirates mind to think twice about raiding a ship.

Buy some old merchant ship, load it up with country X's special forces, let them loose in African waters. Pay a bonus for every pirate ship destroyed.

Its a political landmine though

what if one of the African governments objects?
or if the q ship accidentally kill local fishermen?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I wish they would do something like the Q-ship concept. If you got enough of them out there killing/sinking pirates (NOT arresting them), you might cuase enough doubt in the pirates mind to think twice about raiding a ship.

Buy some old merchant ship, load it up with country X's special forces, let them loose in African waters. Pay a bonus for every pirate ship destroyed.

Your thinking too complex, don't forget these pirates can't tell the difference between a fleet replenishment oiler and a crude oil oiler.

The NATO resupply ships have nabbed their fair share of pirates stupid enough to not keep a copy of Jane's on hand.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Your thinking too complex, don't forget these pirates can't tell the difference between a fleet replenishment oiler and a crude oil oiler.

The NATO resupply ships have nabbed their fair share of pirates stupid enough to not keep a copy of Jane's on hand.

Well this should be pretty simple then:
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[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Your thinking too complex, don't forget these pirates can't tell the difference between a fleet replenishment oiler and a crude oil oiler.

The NATO resupply ships have nabbed their fair share of pirates stupid enough to not keep a copy of Jane's on hand.

They have already demonstrated that they can't tell the difference between a Burke class destroyer and a bulk carrier...