Bush drone attacks targeted mourners and rescuers.

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Originally Posted by Catfish

There are no civilians. Plant a weapon next to him and he's an insurgent.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f66_1223515331

I'm not trying to justify anything but your problem is that you try to relativize everything by videos like this.
I believe its not a policy or standard conduct of military.
The purpose,methods or effectiveness of war in Afghanistan can be debated ,the problem is that incidents like this are prone to happen regardless of the fact weather you believe this war is just or not.
As long as this war need is fought people will get killed.

Originally Posted by Catfish

To compare the death of a US citizen to an Afghani or Iraqi and then saying "those scumbags do not count" is not only inhuman, racist and xenophobic, but plain dumb.

You know...i live in a place surrounded by those "scumbags" and when i look at ME as much as i try to exercise my brain i come to conclusion that we are better.
The sad thing is that their own "freedom fighters" or leaders consider their own(civilian) blood to be very cheap when it serves the cause of being free to be oppressed by their own people and live in dark ages theocracies.
I have no problem with that....maybe i'm selfish or maybe just so much liberal...as long as they don't try to export those views in my direction its all ok with me.
I know I'm generalising here but going into details does not change the overall picture that ME Afghanistan or Iran are...what their are.

The issue is not civilian casualties or harts and minds.
It is weather USA wants to deal or can deal with this bunch of fanatic crackheads who can slaughter their own Muslim fellows to pass the massage about how decent human should live his life... without mach of debate.

Oh yeah they are debating now over Syria for a year-a great friend of freedom fighters, defendant of Muslim human rights and great partner for peace.
It takes so long probably because USA or Israel has nothing to do with the massacre

At least they do debate this time, unlike what happened under previous Syrian anti-imperialist dear leader.

Catfish don't feel so bad about yourself.
You are lucky to be where you are and you are much better and better off.