Why I like Ike (and Nixon)

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

How do you know that Nixon knew this information though do you have a source?I know Ike knew.

Nixon was Ike's VP.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Nixon was Ike's VP.

I know that sorry I was not thinking on that part.But it is well known that Ike did not like Nixon very much and that would have been the reason that he refused Nixon's request also simply for obvious national security reasons which makes me doubt that Nixon would have out thought to ever mentioning the information that he had about the Soviets in a debate with Kennedy.I am sure he really got pretty pissed every time it came up.

In the end Nixon got elected twice and he did get the POWs out of North Vietnam so I am glad that he got in when he did and not in 1960.He was in at the right time and he had the bad luck of getting caught doing things that every other president before and since does to some extent.

Good post, I think that Ike is rather under-rated in the pantheon of American presidents.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

In the end Nixon got elected twice and he did get the POWs out of North Vietnam so I am glad that he got in when he did and not in 1960.He was in at the right time and he had the bad luck of getting caught doing things that every other president before and since does to some extent.

^QFT

[Tchocky]

We cannot allow a mineshaft gap!

[Stealhead]

You beat me to it!! I was going to post that.That was a very good movie poked fun at every camp.

No Russian is going get my purity of essence in my mine shaft.

[soopaman2]

Enjoy the fairy tales of times past.

No president will ever be as full of integrity as Ike.

We should go back to his tax rates...

What deficit?

Oh no, can't crush the (offshoring) "job creators" who work so hard (for a few select shareholders) to bring America to greatness (by bailing out failing enterprises) because they would cripple our economy (they give us politicians alot of money).


Not in todays bought out and fascist government.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

No president will ever be as full of integrity as Ike.

Arguably no modern president, but Ike doesn't hold a candle to George Washington. The only man who provably didn't want the job, and only took it because it was necessary.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You beat me to it!! I was going to post that.That was a very good movie poked fun at every camp.

No Russian is going get my purity of essence in my mine shaft.

I feel bad for throwing it into a fairly interesting thread

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I feel bad for throwing it into a fairly interesting thread

It is not really off topic though to be honest a good portion or Dr.Strangelove uses the "missile gap" as inspiration.My favorite part though was when they call the Soviet Premier "Dmitri" and the Soviet Ambassador says the President before handing the phone over "Be careful Mr. President I believe that he had been drinking."

You know there was another "missile gap" in the mid 70's some might recall the USAF MX program.They even made a "documentary" with actual USAF missile men and B-52 crewman as well as the crew of a "Looking Glass" EC-135 the film was called "First Strike" it shows our(the US) ICBM,bomber,and submarine get wiped out in a first strike form the Soviets and then show several "experts" explain how we need the MX program to avoid a first strike.
All of the scenes of the USAF personal where later used in "The Day After" which is why some the scenes of the US airmen seems so well done it is because they where real airmen not actors other bits contain actors from TV film.The "Firts Strike" film was made by some California Public Television but I suspect that the USAF and like minded folks paid for it.Someone just took parts from "First Strike" and added then into "The Day After"

Here is a link to the 1st clip on youtube check it out all the USAF and Navy personal are real they are not acting or actors well the events are real not obviously.

There is a second part with the experts explaining the need for the MX.The idea for the MX ICBM had been around since the mid 60's.Actually there are 4 parts if you want to see the entire thing it is fairly interesting the remaining 3 parts are all various experts explaining the danger of the gap and the need for the MX system.