Some basic questions

merc4ulfate · 01-25-12, 08:30 PM

I am playing with tmo 2.7 and I have been in Tokyo and hiroshima harbors. No mine fields or nets ... whats up with that?

jgf · 01-30-12, 01:21 AM

I don't consider anything a game allows "off the shelf" (no hacks, patches, or cheat codes) to be cheating; but agree harbor raiding is unrealistic. It was my major source of tonnage in SH1 and is proving equally lucrative in SH4; though at least now the IJN fights back. Also agree it would be nice to slip the radar operator some knockout drops when leaving Pearl; I don't need non-stop notifications of every friendly blip on the screen. Have yet to encounter any nets, but it's only 1943 in my career (7th patrol).

magic452 · 01-30-12, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jgf

Also agree it would be nice to slip the radar operator some knockout drops when leaving Pearl; I don't need non-stop notifications of every friendly blip on the screen..

Just turn off the radar. But don't forget to turn it back on once you've cleared the port area. You still get visual contacts but it helps

Magic

jgf · 01-30-12, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by magic452

Just turn off the radar. But don't forget to turn it back on once you've cleared the port area. You still get visual contacts but it helps

Magic

Tried that. Apparently that miscreant operator turns it back on as soon as I walk away.

Stealhead · 01-30-12, 04:15 PM

You are probably getting hits on the SD air search radar then you cant turn that one off.What version are you playing?If the radar is coming back on or you are getting tons of aircraft hits that sounds like stock to me.jgf mods also vastly increase the number of nets and mines to deal with there are very few in stock.

I play TMO and when you turn the radar off (SJ) it stays off unless perhaps you dive and then surface I know that if you had the radar on then it comes back on when you surface again stock forced you to turn it on.Never looked to see what happens when it is off and you dive and resurface but I think it stays off.

If you are playing stock then you might really enjoy some of the mods that make the game much better and some greatly increase the challenge from the AI.TMO is not the only mod there are several others.

Never mind jgf you are using TMO but what version it says in your other post in another thread that you have SH4 1.4 this does not work with the newer versions of TMO that would explain your issues.You are probably not getting the full effect of TMO unless you are using a really old version.What does your loading and title screen look like? If it is just like stock you have a problem.TMO 2.2,2.5 will not work with 1.4 you would need TMO 1.5 maybe that one would but I am not sure.1.4 is the version without the added U-boat missions if you have those then you have 1.5.

jgf · 01-30-12, 09:44 PM

I noticed the different versions of TMO and double checked that my d/l was for V1.4 before installing. My loading screen has a monochrome photo of a sub with "Trigger Maru Overhaul" and the loading bar.

TMO is the only mod I currently have active. Before starting my career I installed RSRD (version for V1.4 + TMO), plus the update, plus the patch, but the sim would CTD as soon as I left the office and the map appeared, so I uninstalled it (using the mod installer).

When leaving Pearl I can't even tap the "+" key enough to get 128x TC before "radar contact, sir" (tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir", tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir", tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir"). I give up, leave TC at 8x and go flank speed til I'm a hundred or so miles away then slow and increase TC (always stop at Midway on my way to and from Japan so the fuel use is no concern).

Stealhead · 01-30-12, 10:52 PM

If you getting radar hits and have to go 100 miles from Pearl those are aircraft and that sounds like way too many for TMO they should be reduced in number over stock.I would try and remove all mods with JSGME and install just TMO again if you got the CTDs something may still be jacked up.Also if you are getting hits from surface contacts even if you have turned of the radar and it comes back on that sounds way off I have never seen this.With the radar on you should only get hits from surface contacts for around 20 miles if you have the SJ set to 40,000.

I would get the Gold edition with the added U-Boat missions very few mods support old 1.4 anymore and you will be able to get the most up to date versions of mods.Those older mods have not had errors corrected that have been ironed out in later versions.It is a few extra bucks to spend but it is well worth it I bet about 90% of SH4 players started with 1.4 and then purchased Gold Edition if you want the most refined experience that is your option.For now though i would fully remove TMO via JSGME and then install it again just to see if something is nerfing your game with all those contacts it might stop with a fresh TMO install also try a brand new career and see if you get all the contacts.Your old save may be jacked up as well.

01-30-12, 04:15 PM	#5
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	You are probably getting hits on the SD air search radar then you cant turn that one off.What version are you playing?If the radar is coming back on or you are getting tons of aircraft hits that sounds like stock to me.jgf mods also vastly increase the number of nets and mines to deal with there are very few in stock. I play TMO and when you turn the radar off (SJ) it stays off unless perhaps you dive and then surface I know that if you had the radar on then it comes back on when you surface again stock forced you to turn it on.Never looked to see what happens when it is off and you dive and resurface but I think it stays off. If you are playing stock then you might really enjoy some of the mods that make the game much better and some greatly increase the challenge from the AI.TMO is not the only mod there are several others. Never mind jgf you are using TMO but what version it says in your other post in another thread that you have SH4 1.4 this does not work with the newer versions of TMO that would explain your issues.You are probably not getting the full effect of TMO unless you are using a really old version.What does your loading and title screen look like? If it is just like stock you have a problem.TMO 2.2,2.5 will not work with 1.4 you would need TMO 1.5 maybe that one would but I am not sure.1.4 is the version without the added U-boat missions if you have those then you have 1.5. Last edited by Stealhead; 01-30-12 at 04:28 PM.

01-25-12, 08:30 PM	#1
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I am playing with tmo 2.7 and I have been in Tokyo and hiroshima harbors. No mine fields or nets ... whats up with that?

01-30-12, 01:21 AM	#2
jgf Watch Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I don't consider anything a game allows "off the shelf" (no hacks, patches, or cheat codes) to be cheating; but agree harbor raiding is unrealistic. It was my major source of tonnage in SH1 and is proving equally lucrative in SH4; though at least now the IJN fights back. Also agree it would be nice to slip the radar operator some knockout drops when leaving Pearl; I don't need non-stop notifications of every friendly blip on the screen. Have yet to encounter any nets, but it's only 1943 in my career (7th patrol).

01-30-12, 09:44 PM	#6
jgf Watch Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I noticed the different versions of TMO and double checked that my d/l was for V1.4 before installing. My loading screen has a monochrome photo of a sub with "Trigger Maru Overhaul" and the loading bar. TMO is the only mod I currently have active. Before starting my career I installed RSRD (version for V1.4 + TMO), plus the update, plus the patch, but the sim would CTD as soon as I left the office and the map appeared, so I uninstalled it (using the mod installer). When leaving Pearl I can't even tap the "+" key enough to get 128x TC before "radar contact, sir" (tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir", tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir", tap,tap,tap,"radar contact, sir"). I give up, leave TC at 8x and go flank speed til I'm a hundred or so miles away then slow and increase TC (always stop at Midway on my way to and from Japan so the fuel use is no concern).

01-30-12, 10:52 PM	#7
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	If you getting radar hits and have to go 100 miles from Pearl those are aircraft and that sounds like way too many for TMO they should be reduced in number over stock.I would try and remove all mods with JSGME and install just TMO again if you got the CTDs something may still be jacked up.Also if you are getting hits from surface contacts even if you have turned of the radar and it comes back on that sounds way off I have never seen this.With the radar on you should only get hits from surface contacts for around 20 miles if you have the SJ set to 40,000. I would get the Gold edition with the added U-Boat missions very few mods support old 1.4 anymore and you will be able to get the most up to date versions of mods.Those older mods have not had errors corrected that have been ironed out in later versions.It is a few extra bucks to spend but it is well worth it I bet about 90% of SH4 players started with 1.4 and then purchased Gold Edition if you want the most refined experience that is your option.For now though i would fully remove TMO via JSGME and then install it again just to see if something is nerfing your game with all those contacts it might stop with a fresh TMO install also try a brand new career and see if you get all the contacts.Your old save may be jacked up as well.