Woops! Lockheed forgot the Tailhook on the F-35C

Lord_magerius · 01-17-12, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

They should open up the design process to flightsimmers. I'd bet they'd come up with a working design in 102 days.

Hey, if a bunch of gamers can map an entire genome, an airplane should be cake.

That's pretty damn true, just get gamers to do it. They'd do it for the sheer fun of it, though the chances of OMFG rockets being sneaked in there as a primary armament does increase

krashkart · 01-17-12, 03:43 PM

How about bunny rockets? Bunny rockets and sticky bombs.

There should also be an auto-drip coffeemaker and Pez dispenser integrated in the cockpit somewhere. Would there be enough room for those?

TLAM Strike · 01-17-12, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

They should open up the design process to flightsimmers. I'd bet they'd come up with a working design in 102 days.

No doubt the final result would be this:

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Originally Posted by Lord_magerius

That's pretty damn true, just get gamers to do it. They'd do it for the sheer fun of it, though the chances of OMFG rockets being sneaked in there as a primary armament does increase

Why am I reminded of this:

Falkirion · 01-17-12, 04:56 PM

TLAM I'd take 2 of those over a Typhoon anyday. But then again I just love the Flanker and Rafale.

Pretty glaring oversight to mess up the position of the hook, you'd have thought that given America's power comes from the air groups on carriers that the hook position would've been one of the things looked at closely.

magicstix · 01-17-12, 07:32 PM

Par for the course with Lockheed. Too big to succeed.

TLAM Strike · 01-17-12, 08:04 PM

One other possibility the UK might consider:

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Maybe they could arrange a trade: 1 Eurofighter for 1 Tomcat?

How would the RN feel about having a better carrier based plane than us for the first time?

Platapus · 01-17-12, 08:46 PM

One of the issues is that in order to improve its LO capability, the tail hook retracts into a compartment with a door (similar to how some landing gear works).

The door/compartment could only be made so big to fit with the other stuff and they thought it was long enough and it is long enough for some landing attitudes but not all. And we all know about Naval Aviator attitudes when it comes to landing (rimshot)

This was a system engineering bo-bo and one that will be difficult to fix. There is already talk about single use extending tail hooks. Expensive but might be the only way to make it work.

TLAM Strike · 01-17-12, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

One of the issues is that in order to improve its LO capability, the tail hook retracts into a compartment with a door (similar to how some landing gear works).

Honestly they should not be bothering to stealth the back of the plane so much. No point in being invisible to someone you just bombed.

Schöneboom · 01-17-12, 11:17 PM

General Smedley Butler got it right: War is a racket!

01-17-12, 03:43 PM	#2
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	How about bunny rockets? Bunny rockets and sticky bombs. There should also be an auto-drip coffeemaker and Pez dispenser integrated in the cockpit somewhere. Would there be enough room for those? __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

01-17-12, 08:04 PM	#6
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	One other possibility the UK might consider: ] Maybe they could arrange a trade: 1 Eurofighter for 1 Tomcat? How would the RN feel about having a better carrier based plane than us for the first time? __________________

01-17-12, 08:46 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	One of the issues is that in order to improve its LO capability, the tail hook retracts into a compartment with a door (similar to how some landing gear works). The door/compartment could only be made so big to fit with the other stuff and they thought it was long enough and it is long enough for some landing attitudes but not all. And we all know about Naval Aviator attitudes when it comes to landing (rimshot) This was a system engineering bo-bo and one that will be difficult to fix. There is already talk about single use extending tail hooks. Expensive but might be the only way to make it work. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-17-12, 11:17 PM	#9
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	General Smedley Butler got it right: War is a racket! __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

01-17-12, 04:56 PM	#4
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	TLAM I'd take 2 of those over a Typhoon anyday. But then again I just love the Flanker and Rafale. Pretty glaring oversight to mess up the position of the hook, you'd have thought that given America's power comes from the air groups on carriers that the hook position would've been one of the things looked at closely.

01-17-12, 07:32 PM	#5
magicstix Captain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nuclear submarine under the North Pole Posts: 481 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Par for the course with Lockheed. Too big to succeed.