Santorum wants to impose 'Judeo-Christian Sharia'

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

He's puritanical. His views on birth control are frightening. They go back to some patriarchal Leave it to Beaver type 1950s time warp.

He wants to stop using federal funding (read..my tax dollars) for birth control. Sounds good to me. Pay for your own damn birth control pills.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

He wants to stop using federal funding (read..my tax dollars) for birth control. Sounds good to me. Pay for your own damn birth control pills.

And when people can't, you get to pay for all those new babies on welfare. Hooray for cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And he's for allowing states to ban birth control. That's absolutely idiotic. The guy's a fundie, and as Skybird said - fundies of all stripes in a position of power are scary.

[Bubblehead1980]

[QUOTE=mookiemookie;1816596]And when people can't, you get to pay for all those new babies on welfare. Hooray for cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And he's for allowing states to ban birth control. That's absolutely idiotic. The guy's a fundie, and as Skybird said - fundies of all stripes in a position of power are scary.[/QUO

Ah religious fools are just about as bad as people like obama. Sad state of affairs my party and this country is in.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I just can't believe Iowa would push Santorum up over Paul lol , religious fools.

I'm impressed with Paul's showing precisely because Iowa is such a backwards place. To come in a respectable third there is no small feat.

[Ducimus]

Between Rick Perry and this Santorum fella, umm, i'm noticing a common trend, and I have to wonder, what the hell are they thinking? If the republicans want the white house back, they're gonna need to find candidates that most people across the country can agree on. These two jack wagon's are only going to scare away everyone who isn't on the extreme right. Just the fact that they are candidates at all, is scary.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Between Rick Perry and this Santorum fella, umm, i'm noticing a common trend, and I have to wonder, what the hell are they thinking? If the republicans want the white house back, they're gonna need to find candidates that most people across the country can agree on. These two jack wagon's are only going to scare away everyone who isn't on the extreme right. Just the fact that they are candidates at all, is scary.

Be careful. That's exactly what people thought about Obama. He is on the extreme left and he has largely been a failure. Obama is a looney marxist with all kinds of weird ideas, yet he got elected. Before his election, he was thought to be unelectable. Just understand, Obama's election changed things. People who you find "scary" are very much electable these days. The Republicans want the White House back...and these "fellas" can get it back for them. The whole USA does not live in your bubble. If you're old enough, this is almost like Reagan redux.

He is on the extreme left and he has largely been a failure. Obama is a looney marxist with all kinds of weird ideas

Demon, you wouldn't know a marxist loony or otherwise if he was parading naked in front of you holding an I am a marxist sign.
But given the fact that you are saying you support a prime fundy pillock like santorum may suggests that you are secretly an Obama fan and want the republicans to choose the biggest unelectable tosspot from the bunch of idiots that have put themselves forward.
So tell me, when exactly was it you became such a big fan of your current slightly left of right President?

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

The Republicans want the White House back...and these "fellas" can get it back for them. The whole USA does not live in your bubble.

And what makes you think it lives in yours?

I think if you look out in the world in general, or at least Western politics, in almost any perspective but the US right-wing's, Obama would hardly be considered left-wing at all, let alone loony marxist. It's no secret that the US neocon and social conservative scene is a bizzare one in the big scope of things.

But that aside, you don't need to look very here to see that the religious right represents a very small number of US constituents, while alienating huge portions of the population based on beliefs and social circumstances. Don't kid yourself, they're not a 'moral majority' and when push comes to shove, you'll see people voting for Obama just out of fear of these guys. And that's the worst kind of political situation, one that will get you stuck with this doofus and the likes of him for a while to come. The point is, when you get a crappy president, you don't get rid of him by voting for candidates with extreme views based on the fact that they're perceived to be opposite to his. If that's how America actually thinks, I would be very disappointed.


And the Reagan romanticism is just laughable. But I guess that's how neocon lore works.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Be careful. That's exactly what people thought about Obama. He is on the extreme left and he has largely been a failure. Obama is a looney marxist with all kinds of weird ideas

Now that's entertainment.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And when people can't, you get to pay for all those new babies on welfare. Hooray for cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And he's for allowing states to ban birth control. That's absolutely idiotic. The guy's a fundie, and as Skybird said - fundies of all stripes in a position of power are scary.

I don't believe any of it. It's a made up projection of a future without federally funded birth control. It's a fraudulent argument. People can pay for their own birth control. A few people unwisely choose not to use birth control at all, and make babies they cannot afford. Federal funds won't change that. What liberals want is to create another entitlement using taxpayer funds, thus creating dependancy on government. This is nanny state lunacy. Government, using tax dollars on thousands of wasteful programs won't save everybody from themselves. Never has. This is why liberals have no business putting their hands on the levers of government.....they abuse it.

As far as states banning birth control, he's for allowing states the right to choose which laws they want to pass. Even if it is about birth control. Birth control is not a right or power enumerated in the US federal constitution. Therefore, he is correct. Leave it up to the states to pass their own laws. Let the courts determine the constitutionality.

[elephantium]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I don't believe any of it. It's a made up projection of a future without federally funded birth control. It's a fraudulent argument. People can pay for their own birth control. A few people unwisely choose not to use birth control at all, and make babies they cannot afford. Federal funds won't change that. What liberals want is to create another entitlement using taxpayer funds, thus creating dependancy on government. This is nanny state lunacy. Government, using tax dollars on thousands of wasteful programs won't save everybody from themselves. Never has. This is why liberals have no business putting their hands on the levers of government.....they abuse it.

As far as states banning birth control, he's for allowing states the right to choose which laws they want to pass. Even if it is about birth control. Birth control is not a right or power enumerated in the US federal constitution. Therefore, he is correct. Leave it up to the states to pass their own laws. Let the courts determine the constitutionality.

I consider myself a liberal, and this is most definitely *not* what I want. Please stop lying about my wishes and motivations.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by elephantium

I consider myself a liberal, and this is most definitely *not* what I want. Please stop lying about my wishes and motivations.

I wasn't talking about you or any regular joe voter on a personal level. But in my view, I believe the Democrat Party and liberals in government who seem to hold perpetual office wants people dependant on government programs in exchange for votes. Federally funded "everything" is a way to make that happen.

What's entertaining about your post is, I don't know how many times I've been told I want to "deny" people healthcare and want the elderly to die because I oppose Obamacare, how I "hate" gay people because I support Prop 8, I want to nuke everybody out of existence because I want a strong and viable nuclear deterrent and remain firm against further cuts, and I hope and pray for dirty air and water because I oppose legislation that all but guts our energy infrastructure and refuse to support pie in the sky energy schemes. All told to me by died in the wool libs. I made no such assertions against you.

[elephantium]

Fair enough - I'd agree (with respect to both political parties) that the people in Washington are so far out of touch with the "real" people that they're in essentially a different country.

Please do say "the fat-cats running the Democratic party" instead of "liberals" -- the latter is a VERY broad brush and inaccurate besides. I'm certainly not a Democrat.

I'll add this comparison, too:

Democrats - want voters to benefit from and be grateful for social programs? ... in bed with rich Hollywood companies.
Republicans - want voters patriotic and grateful for jobs from lots of spending on "defense contractors"? ... in bed with said defense contractors.

Looking out for normal people: No one.

It's hard to follow your point when you intentionally abuse the quote function.

Didn't you learn from last time that it's all in your mind?
Oh sorry, last time you crazily said I was deliberately doing it not intentionally doing it.
Must make a mental note , don't use the big "post reply" button when posting a reply