Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's Okay to Shoot

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 04:19 PM

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Regardless of their intent, if you break into a home when its more than likely someone is at home AND armed with weapon, or inflict bodily harm, its a home invasion. Why is that a big deal?

It is not a big deal. Tater simply stated that the perpetrators entered with the intent of sexual assault, and given the one was shot before an actual assault was able to take place it would seem that this is extrapolation. They were intent on acting in some criminal fashion, but our society seems to have an unhealthy fixation on sexual crimes. And, it turns out, I was right about there being no proof of the intent to rape the woman. Now, why is pointing that out a big deal to you?

GoldenRivet · 01-05-12, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Tater simply stated that the perpetrators entered with the intent of sexual assault

tater stated that it was at their intent at the very least.

meaning - even if they were not going to kill her - they were likely to at least rape her.

or take the child

or kill them both

or kill the kid

or kill the mom

or loot the place and terrorize them both

moral of the story is that they didnt stop in for a friendly "ello"

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 04:42 PM

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tater stated that it was at their intent at the very least.

meaning - even if they were not going to kill her - they were likely to at least rape her.

Which means that sexual assault was the primary motive. This is unknowable, which was my point all along. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.

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moral of the story is that they didnt stop in for a friendly "ello"

And here I was thinking that he just came over for tea. Well color me stupid.

GoldenRivet · 01-05-12, 04:44 PM

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And here I was thinking that he just came over for tea. Well color me stupid.

i still think it was all a misunderstanding and that the man borrowed the hunting knife from the late husband and was really really really excited about giving it back.

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 04:48 PM

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i still think it was all a misunderstanding and that the man borrowed the hunting knife from the late husband and was really really really excited about giving it back.

So you are telling me that is was accidental after all? Now I am very confused.

GoldenRivet · 01-05-12, 07:29 PM

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So you are telling me that is was accidental after all? Now I am very confused.

here

Platapus · 01-05-12, 08:06 PM

For anyone who keeps a gun in the house for defense, I can highly recommend the book "In the gravest extreme" By Ayoob

A very educational read by one of the few truly experts.

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