[WIP] Town Class DD, and a Question

[the_frog]

privateer,

a model of the 12 pdr would be great!
What became of the corresponding Bathurst?

Kafka BC,

a detailed model (some 20.000 polygons) of the 4"/50 (wet mount, without shield) came with SH4. I considered reduction to a lowpoly thing but building from scratch seems more efficient. The Russian 4", portraited in guns_VaaLiliput, has a barrel of similar lenght but a rather different mounting and breech/counterweight; the barrel's balance is more forward.

You didn't change the hull, so re-working the hull's damage zones ( can be tricky) is not necessary. However, if you delete/change submodels it could be an idea to delete/change the respective damage zones. So, upon replacing a boat by a platform, the models damage box may be changed from 20 (boat) to something else (perhaps antenna [14] or mast [15]; defining codes are in the "zones.cfg" file, which is at toplevel of the "data" folder) plus the box size can be adjusted to the size of the new item.

[Kafka BC]

Originally Posted by the_frog

The Russian 4", portraited in guns_VaaLiliput, has a barrel of similar lenght but a rather different mounting and breech/counterweight; the barrel's balance is more forward.

That is why I switched the barrel to the 4.7 inch model, the breech is further back, more traditionally shaped, and makes it look closer to the 4"/50.

You didn't change the hull, so re-working the hull's damage zones ( can be tricky) is not necessary. However, if you delete/change submodels it could be an idea to delete/change the respective damage zones. So, upon replacing a boat by a platform, the models damage box may be changed from 20 (boat) to something else (perhaps antenna [14] or mast [15]; defining codes are in the "zones.cfg" file, which is at toplevel of the "data" folder) plus the box size can be adjusted to the size of the new item.

I only just figured out how to view the damage zones in S3D and I think you are right where the hull is concerned.

What I have done so far to make this model is:

- Replaced the forefunnel model with the fourth
- Replaced the third funnel model with the first
- Replaced the boat models with ones from the V&W and moved them forward.
- Moved the generator to the rear half of the ship to beside the third funnel where it should have been
- Removed the aft mast and some rigging and replaced it with one of the masts from the Bogue
- Lowered the Searchlight platform
- Moved some vents around
- Added Carly Rafts from the HuntI and the Radar Structure from the River class
- Added duplicate models of the Searchlight platform for the 2 lbr and 20mm Oerlikon AA guns
- Eliminated and added nodes for the weapons

so I guess these will have to be checked.

Originally Posted by the_frog

privateer,

a model of the 12 pdr would be great!
What became of the corresponding Bathurst?

The 12pdr is nearly finished. The Mount is about all I need to complete
before UV and textureing.
I'll be sending a preview to Kafka BC for his opinion before posting images here.

The Bathurst is still a WIP. I do little things for it from time to time.
A recent addition is proper Mark II DC throwers and a different DC rack.
Both with animated crew working them.
Reaper7 also re-UVed the Hull as I was never happy with my UV's.

OK. Here's the first public preview of the 12pdr for Kafka BC
A few more details to finish, some adjustments here and there,
and I'll start the texture work.
Feedback is welcome.


Scaleing check with a stock SH3 Weapons Man


View from behind


and for a special Bathurst preview for 'the frog'

[Kafka BC]

Originally Posted by privateer

and for a special Bathurst preview for 'the frog'

I was going to tell him to ask you for one. She is a beauty.

[the_frog]

privateer,

the Bathurst's going to become a true cutie. I really hope to see it riding the waves one day.

The 12 pdr looks great, too!

The guy you used for scaling is no stock gunner; he wears a different tin hat

the Frog

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by privateer

OK. Here's the first public preview of the 12pdr for Kafka BC
A few more details to finish, some adjustments here and there,
and I'll start the texture work.
Feedback is welcome.


Scaleing check with a stock SH3 Weapons Man


View from behind

Well if i take a look on the Original 12pdr and then take a look to yours, there is just one thing to say: WOW you did an exact replica from that gun!! Outstanding!!!

You can get a better look at the 12pdr here.
Note that there is a shameless plug at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Privatee.../6/bTocWElirjM

I was wondering who would be the first to spot the helmet change.

@Kafka BC
I started the UV and texture work and have a quick question.
Should I keep the colors close to standard SH3 Gun colors so it blends in with everything.
Or would you prefer historic colors?
It makes the 12 pdr appear lighter then other Guns in Game if I do historic colors.
As close to historic as I can actually find information on anyway.


I'll finish the mount part and send you a copy to look at with both SH3 and best guess historic colors.
This is YOUR gun so don't be worried about wanting things your way Mate!
I'm working for you on this just as I did for the Guns for VonDos.

[the_frog]

privateer,
an idea -- most guns were painted to fit the ship's finish. In order, to make guns fit most textures, I use the lightest colour possible. Since a British gun, that would be 507C (a light grey, approx. html #bdc2c9). Hope that helps.

kafka bc,
the changes to the 3D model of the Town I did/do are just a small additions to your work -- as privateer stated, that is your project, the rest of us just contributes.

cheers

[Kafka BC]

Originally Posted by privateer

@Kafka BC
I started the UV and texture work and have a quick question.
Should I keep the colors close to standard SH3 Gun colors so it blends in with everything.
Or would you prefer historic colors?
It makes the 12 pdr appear lighter then other Guns in Game if I do historic colors.
As close to historic as I can actually find information on anyway.


I'll finish the mount part and send you a copy to look at with both SH3 and best guess historic colors.
This is YOUR gun so don't be worried about wanting things your way Mate!
I'm working for you on this just as I did for the Guns for VonDos.

I have no preference. I think you should do it the way you would like to see it. The colors can be changed by the folks who may not like it.

I have never considered it my gun, only yours, and it was going to get its workout on my mod. The video you did shows the impressive work that you have done and I think you should release it as yours for the community to use.

It is going to look very nice on the town. The Frog has modified the model a bit to add more of the Town's character to it.

I am taking a break from the model for a bit and working on the hull and deck textures. I found this neat plugin in a plugin package (Eye Candy 4000) called HSB Noise that is great for making textures look not so shiny and new. If I get ambitious I may try to make a skin that looks something like this:



As I said before, don't rush for me.

Regards,
Kafka BC