Worst Silent Hunter game ever??

Hylander_1314 · 12-30-11, 11:19 PM

Jimmy, you might want to give Battle of Britain II Wings Of Valor a try. Although not an online flight sim (yet), it has a dedicated modding group, that has been busy working on it for it the last 5 or 6 years.

Squadrons have individual markings, (Bf-109 squadrons have over 300 different markings alone) and you can have litterally hundreds of planes in the air battling it out over southeast England at one time. The AI is some of the best from the novice who will momentarily freeze up to the veteran who won't give you a target to shoot at no matter how good you get.

Bombers that get damaged will fall out of formation and head for France, and lots of other cool stuff.

The downside, is that some of the graphics look older, like the terrain and water in some areas, but there are folks even working on that.

Oh yes, and even us veterans of that one get out share of being shot down. The furballs are almost impossible to get out of without bailing out, or landing a shot up plane.

Arlo · 01-01-12, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Jimmy, you might want to give Battle of Britain II Wings Of Valor a try. Although not an online flight sim (yet), it has a dedicated modding group, that has been busy working on it for it the last 5 or 6 years.

Squadrons have individual markings, (Bf-109 squadrons have over 300 different markings alone) and you can have litterally hundreds of planes in the air battling it out over southeast England at one time. The AI is some of the best from the novice who will momentarily freeze up to the veteran who won't give you a target to shoot at no matter how good you get.

Bombers that get damaged will fall out of formation and head for France, and lots of other cool stuff.

The downside, is that some of the graphics look older, like the terrain and water in some areas, but there are folks even working on that.

Oh yes, and even us veterans of that one get out share of being shot down. The furballs are almost impossible to get out of without bailing out, or landing a shot up plane.

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Trevally. · 01-01-12, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

The following statement is not a support for Warez of anykind of Product, neither do i support those actions!
It was just made to keep the facts straight.

Just for the Records: The first cracked Version of SH5 was available on different Warezsites at 3rd march 2010, German release date from the original game was 4th March 2010 and from the collectors editon release date was 15th march 2010 IIRC.
After Patch 1.1 a new cracked Version was available just 1 day after the Patch.

Yes - but they don't work

Quote "my campaign bar does not fill when I sink ships"

Kongo Otto · 01-01-12, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Yes - but they don't work

Quote "my campaign bar does not fill when I sink ships"

I cant answer that, because if i would i would be banned.
So let us assume youre right. *cough*

Jaydice · 01-01-12, 06:13 PM

Looking at your sales data I'll point out sales of SH5 dropped like a rock after weeks 2 & 3 and this was after much heavier promotion of SH5 than SH3. SH4 got the weakest promotion of the modern SH3 programs. The sales figures for both SH3 & 4 grew after initial release. Those were also more complete and functional product at launch but the DRM of SH3 was not as bad as the DRM of SH5.

I basically had two points that I would make to any software developer. Know what who your market is and what they want, and deliver it. If you delivery a high value and compelling product financial pay off will be profitable. Deliver crap and it wont be.

Simmers want realism, simmers are typically older computer users who can afford to buy the game, and who want to support development, and simmers repay brand loyalty with loyalty. Ubisoft both undercut their credibility, brand and industry prestige releasing what they did with SH5 and they did not do themselves any favors layering more and more restrictive DRM ontop of the it making it harder to legitimate owners to enjoy the product.

If they put the efforts and resources into development instead of ineffective anti-piracy measures they'd have a product many more people would have payed for in the weeks following release, enabling a longer term update/support path which in turn would have been rewarded with much more positive long term sales.

This is what AAA wanna be software manufactures do wrong. They promote and advertise too much prior to release, securing pre-orders, and running collector editions, etc all non-essential BS. Put that money into development and QA, and when you have a stable, product with 90% of the features developed, then release, and release with a schedule to run 5-10 patches on the product, while promoting after the product is on the market. Don't build hype levels only rivaled on facebook and twitter for a papercup product that will implode under the pressure of the littoral waters. They do not build a solid product then promote. If they promoted once the product was "done" and supported fixing problems with a long term strategy of patching and post-release development the financial rewards would be much more profitable.

vanjast · 01-05-12, 02:59 PM

Let me put it this way...
Companies 'LIE' about their stats... period.
Why... think carefully about it!

Kongo Otto · 01-05-12, 10:35 PM

Hmm i dont know if this is a specific SH 5 thing, but i sometimes think that the most costumers today are not interested in content anymore, a nice shiny box is already enough for them.
Look at Movies like Pearl Harbor, Iron Man, Transformers, Sherlock Holmes etc. etc.
Big Kabooms all over the places, but no real content, no storyline, just Boom, even more Kaboom, lots of CGI and a few human actors to get the Teenies in.
Human society is dumbing down, you can see it all over this planet, they dont want "complex" games like SH3 or IL2 anymore, what they want is fast food on everything, not just with Burgers.

12-30-11, 11:19 PM	#1
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Jimmy, you might want to give Battle of Britain II Wings Of Valor a try. Although not an online flight sim (yet), it has a dedicated modding group, that has been busy working on it for it the last 5 or 6 years. Squadrons have individual markings, (Bf-109 squadrons have over 300 different markings alone) and you can have litterally hundreds of planes in the air battling it out over southeast England at one time. The AI is some of the best from the novice who will momentarily freeze up to the veteran who won't give you a target to shoot at no matter how good you get. Bombers that get damaged will fall out of formation and head for France, and lots of other cool stuff. The downside, is that some of the graphics look older, like the terrain and water in some areas, but there are folks even working on that. Oh yes, and even us veterans of that one get out share of being shot down. The furballs are almost impossible to get out of without bailing out, or landing a shot up plane. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

01-01-12, 06:13 PM	#5
Jaydice Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Looking at your sales data I'll point out sales of SH5 dropped like a rock after weeks 2 & 3 and this was after much heavier promotion of SH5 than SH3. SH4 got the weakest promotion of the modern SH3 programs. The sales figures for both SH3 & 4 grew after initial release. Those were also more complete and functional product at launch but the DRM of SH3 was not as bad as the DRM of SH5. I basically had two points that I would make to any software developer. Know what who your market is and what they want, and deliver it. If you delivery a high value and compelling product financial pay off will be profitable. Deliver crap and it wont be. Simmers want realism, simmers are typically older computer users who can afford to buy the game, and who want to support development, and simmers repay brand loyalty with loyalty. Ubisoft both undercut their credibility, brand and industry prestige releasing what they did with SH5 and they did not do themselves any favors layering more and more restrictive DRM ontop of the it making it harder to legitimate owners to enjoy the product. If they put the efforts and resources into development instead of ineffective anti-piracy measures they'd have a product many more people would have payed for in the weeks following release, enabling a longer term update/support path which in turn would have been rewarded with much more positive long term sales. This is what AAA wanna be software manufactures do wrong. They promote and advertise too much prior to release, securing pre-orders, and running collector editions, etc all non-essential BS. Put that money into development and QA, and when you have a stable, product with 90% of the features developed, then release, and release with a schedule to run 5-10 patches on the product, while promoting after the product is on the market. Don't build hype levels only rivaled on facebook and twitter for a papercup product that will implode under the pressure of the littoral waters. They do not build a solid product then promote. If they promoted once the product was "done" and supported fixing problems with a long term strategy of patching and post-release development the financial rewards would be much more profitable.

01-05-12, 02:59 PM	#6
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,739 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Let me put it this way... Companies 'LIE' about their stats... period. Why... think carefully about it!

01-05-12, 10:35 PM	#7
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Hmm i dont know if this is a specific SH 5 thing, but i sometimes think that the most costumers today are not interested in content anymore, a nice shiny box is already enough for them. Look at Movies like Pearl Harbor, Iron Man, Transformers, Sherlock Holmes etc. etc. Big Kabooms all over the places, but no real content, no storyline, just Boom, even more Kaboom, lots of CGI and a few human actors to get the Teenies in. Human society is dumbing down, you can see it all over this planet, they dont want "complex" games like SH3 or IL2 anymore, what they want is fast food on everything, not just with Burgers.