So Sweden sunk (?) an american submarine

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

I didn't just pick those countries out of a hat Catfish. Palme was known for his harsh criticism of Apartheid and Soviet imperialist ambitions. I'd say there's more than a "very low chance" it was one of them.

Yes but you see, he was equally harsh against the aggressiveness of US politics of the time, and pi**ed off the US with his "worldwide peace negotiations".
You are right they all had an axe to grind with Palmes, but the biggest had the US. Do me the favor and read page 4 -13.
http://books.google.de/books?id=cN-E...page&q&f=false

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Yes but you see, he was equally harsh against the aggressiveness of US politics of the time, and pi**ed off the US with his "worldwide peace negotiations".
You are right they all had an axe to grind with Palmes, but the biggest had the US. Do me the favor and read page 4 -13.
http://books.google.de/books?id=cN-E...page&q&f=false

I gave it a quick read. Apparently it makes a fair number of allegations but like usual with books of this sort it's short on provable facts.

Look the only people I know of who will assassinate someone after the damage is done is the Russians (see Alexander Litvinenko). If the CIA was in the habit of such things don't you think Julien Assange or Hugo Chavez or Jane Fonda, or any number of peaceniks and troublemakers would not have been terminated by now? Palme's impact as an irritant was eliminated when he left office. It would not make sense to remove a threat that has already been neutralized.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

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Look the only people I know of who will assassinate someone after the damage is done is the Russians (see Alexander Litvinenko). If the CIA was in the habit of such things don't you think Julien Assange or Hugo Chavez or Jane Fonda, or any number of peaceniks and troublemakers would not have been terminated by now? Palme's impact as an irritant was eliminated when he left office. It would not make sense to remove a threat that has already been neutralized.

Well my point is the CIA did and does it like the Mossad and surely the Russians. Now they are doing it with drones and more collateral damage. Remember how much (for the US) inconvenient people died in Middle and South America, in those airplane crashes in the 1970ies amd 80ies ?
This became so bad that every plane crash was joked about in a fashion like "who now was in the plane the CIA wanted to get rid off ?".

And then i'm not sure how long Chavez is going to make it


Edit: ah i see your point like "why do it when the danger is removed" - ok. I think it's bad enough deceiving a "befriended" nation that way, to remove inconvenient politicians - this alone is the handwriting of the CIA for sure. And some guys there have been proven to be a bit resentful ?

But then you are right it is only an assumption, but imho a founded one.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

ok. I think it's bad enough deceiving a "befriended" nation that way, to remove inconvenient politicians - this alone is the handwriting of the CIA for sure.

For sure? No, I think it's anything but sure except to those who want it to be true. Oh and for the record I don't believe in any of it and that includes your reference to some unspecified plane crashes a half a century ago.

Originally Posted by heartc

But the CIA also flew the jets into the towers, August.

Exactly. And FDR knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and the moon landings were faked. In fact we didn't actually win WW2 or WW1 and the spirit of the Kaiser still exists in the body of Angela Merkel. You can tell by the mustache!

[heartc]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly. And FDR knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and the moon landings were faked. In fact we didn't actually win WW2 or WW1 and the spirit of the Kaiser still exists in the body of Angela Merkel. You can tell by the mustache!

I see there's hope yet for America. Maybe we'll even let you join the EU one day.

[Karle94]

Originally Posted by August

For sure? No, I think it's anything but sure except to those who want it to be true. Oh and for the record I don't believe in any of it and that includes your reference to some unspecified plane crashes a half a century ago.



Exactly. And FDR knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and the moon landings were faked. In fact we didn't actually win WW2 or WW1 and the spirit of the Kaiser still exists in the body of Angela Merkel. You can tell by the mustache!

Also, Lincoln and Kennedy were both assasinated by the US government.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Karle94

Also, Lincoln and Kennedy were both assasinated by the US government.

And every major American technological innovation of the past 65 years we owe to the Roswell Saucer Crash.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

And every major American technological innovation of the past 65 years we owe to the Roswell Saucer Crash.

...which was secret Nazi tech from their base on the dark side of the moon.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

And every major American technological innovation of the past 65 years we owe to the Roswell Saucer Crash.

Nope

http://alexaxt.blogspot.com/2011/12/...nlichkeit.html

[heartc]

But the CIA also flew the jets into the towers, August.

/sarc

[Catfish]

No it was a hologram and the towers were blown up, everyone knows that