Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by August

So what you're claiming is that marriages have refrigeration and Civil Unions do not?

All I have to add, is I'm glad there's nothing more important to worry about, like say, the economy or Iran. Must be getting close to election time.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

All I have to add, is I'm glad there's nothing more important to worry about, like say, the economy or Iran. Must be getting close to election time.

So what you are saying is that you consider civil rights to be alongside the arts on the list of fluff that can be dealt with once we have 0% unemployment and world peace.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

So what you are saying is that you consider civil rights to be alongside the arts on the list of fluff that can be dealt with once we have 0% unemployment and world peace.

So what you're saying is the choice is either one extreme or the other.

You seems to equal redefinition of the historical meaning of marriage (man-woman) with the right of people to speak or keep and bear arms.

So of course to you anyone who says that maybe we ought to concentrate on more important stuff right now is obviously a hater of freedom and the American way.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

So what you're saying is the choice is either one extreme or the other.

You seems to equal redefinition of the historical meaning of marriage (man-woman) with the right of people to speak or keep and bear arms.

So of course to you anyone who says that maybe we ought to concentrate on more important stuff right now is obviously a hater of freedom and the American way.

Thank you for your opinion, member.

You know who uses the 'more important stuff' line? The Vatican. They use it every time that they are on the losing side of the issue but still don't want to change. "I hear your concern, but we have more pressing issues. We will consider it at a future time." That time never comes. There will always be a foreign policy issue. The economy will always be on the table. The line is a cop-out. But hey, what is intellectual honesty worth around here these days, right?

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Thank you for your opinion, member.

You know who uses the 'more important stuff' line? The Vatican. They use it every time that they are on the losing side of the issue but still don't want to change. "I hear your concern, but we have more pressing issues. We will consider it at a future time." That time never comes. There will always be a foreign policy issue. The economy will always be on the table. The line is a cop-out. But hey, what is intellectual honesty worth around here these days, right?

Last I checked Niki isn't "The Vatican". He hardly deserves being held responsible for what they may or may not have said about some other subject.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Last I checked Niki isn't "The Vatican". He hardly deserves being held responsible for what they may or may not have said about some other subject.

Thank you for your opinion, member.

Your argument is a strawman. Nothing of the sort was implied.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Thank you for your opinion, member.

Your argument is a strawman. Nothing of the sort was implied.

Tak is just upset coz I called " the arts" fluff, similar to a marshmallow, just more expensive.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

So what you are saying is that you consider civil rights to be alongside the arts on the list of fluff that can be dealt with once we have 0% unemployment and world peace.

Something like that.