Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

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Originally Posted by August

Prove what? Show me a religious thread that he hasn't posted in. God owns you as well by the same token. You're both like moths to the flame of your hatred.

What an egg-dance you already have started!

My demand that you shall prove your claim that I or anyone is owned by any deity, has been precisely aimed by me not at your claim about Betonov, but your claim on a god owning somebody. I even quoted you on that.

And you know it.

You just egg-dance.

And now, your evidence for your claim that people are owned by "God" , please. You raise the claim - the burden of evidence is up to you. All others, just live and care their business - they must not prove to you that you are wrong.

Or admit that you personally just believe that you are owned by said "God", and that it is your private, personal hobby to believe so, not to be generalised in content of statement.

It's a bit rich that you relgiuous people often accuse others of generlaisng their arelgious demands, but implying a right for such egneralsiation for yourself so often and with the bgreatest naturalness and non-chalance. It is this arrogance in public that displays an attitude of a natural right to just force others to witness ones own confessions constantly, that brings people like me or Betonov on the scene - not what you believe in private, in the stilness of your home or cabins.

I have no problem with people beieving something, as long as it is not inhumane or cruel. I have a problem with people constantly trying to tell me what they believe in, and trying to reform the public communal space according to their relgious demands, claiming public territory that simply is not theirs.

Betonov maybe was harsh in his word selection, and forum rules maybe even are in discouragement of such wording. On the other hand, it gets silently tolerated in other contexts as well. So why should religion get a special protective status, then - once again sorting it out and putting it above other themes in "respectability" that it claims to deserve, but cannot show why that should be so? we mock politicians. We use words against ideologies and cultural features. And so we do both with rtelgion, too.

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