Pearl Harbor Day: 12-07-2011

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

you don't say

EDIT: Couldnt resist! :P
I can tell the lady giving me a job interview tomorrow that 70 years ago as she and I are talking Pearl Harbor was being attacked.

I say WORK,Instead,so it will not be "misunderstanding" Say hello from me, and ya get what ya want!

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Sorry to laugh but that movie came up today and someone said (regarding D-Day) "oh that's coming up tomorrow!" Uh, no. Wrong anniversary.

No offense taken.
Yeah I know its the wrong movie but thats the movie I like when it comes to any WW2 Remembrance. I never get sick of watching it, just like you probably never get sick of watching Das boot Anyway my dvd collection also has that over the top Pearl Harbour movie with Ben Affleck in it, i'll stick to Private Ryan.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

This guy was an adult with at least a high school edumacation and HE DID NOT KNOW THAT WORLD WAR II WAS A REAL THING.

Yep, there are people like that.

I'm not a fan of Saving Private Ryan, but a good friend of my likes it for a personal reason. Two, in fact.

1. While Ryan is fictional, the rescue teams represented were very real indeed. My friend says his father was given that assignment on several occasions.

2. My friend says his youngest uncle lied about his age, joined up at 14 and made it through boot camp and to the front lines. It was just such a team that brought him back home.

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Yeah I know its the wrong movie but thats the movie I like when it comes to any WW2 Remembrance. I never get sick of watching it, just like you probably never get sick of watching Das boot Anyway my dvd collection also has that over the top Pearl Harbour movie with Ben Affleck in it, i'll stick to Private Ryan.

Have you ever seen Tora! Tora! Tora!? It's every bit as good as Pearl Harbor is bad. It tells the story as it happened, all the actors play real people, no crap at all and it's very well done, especially for a pre-CGI movie. It's one of a handful of WW2 movies I actively praise, the others being The Longest Day and Battle Of Britain. Oh, and A Bridge Too Far, of course.

Das Boot for me occupies that second tier of truly great movies set during the war, but not actually being about the war itself.

[kiwi_2005]

I dont think Ive seen tora tora might have when I was a kid. Might give it a look one day sounds good.

There's something about Saving Private Ryan for me, we all have our personal best war movie, when I first watched this movie back in 99, I was glued to the screen from start to end and I still get goosebumps every time I watch it especially in the start when they are traveling to the beach then get on land and trying to make their way to cover I never tire of that part.

I read a news item not long after the movie came out where of one US vet who watch the movie and during half time he went to the cinema toilets not to relieve himself but to have a good cry. He was there on the beach that day and he says Steven Spielberg got it right on the mark with the beach act, he felt like he was there again and brought back a lot of memories.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I read a news item not long after the movie came out where of one US vet who watch the movie and during half time he went to the cinema toilets not to relieve himself but to have a good cry. He was there on the beach that day and he says Steven Spielberg got it right on the mark with the beach act, he felt like he was there again and brought back a lot of memories.

I've read similar, but for me the beach scene had two many scenes I found predictable. But that's what makes opinions so great; if there was only one there would be only one good movie!

A funny side-note: A lot of people like Ryan because it's so gritty, and movies like The Longest Day are bloodless. I have a young friend who is a Ryan fan, and when he saw Day the first time he commented on how bloody he thought it was!

And while not a fan, I do have a favorite scene, that being the one where they find the other private Ryan, the wrong one. I love that scene because the other guy is played by Nathan Fillion, who would later star in Firefly.

[Oberon]

Hmmm, so about 17:48 GMT, although if you want to be really picky, one could say that the attack began at 16:37 when the USS Ward sank a midget submarine outside Pearl Harbour, or at 13:42 when the USS Condor spotted a periscope and alerted the USS Ward.

I think I will have to put Tora! Tora! Tora! on the Christmas DVD list with Gandhi and A Bridge Too Far. I'm pretty sure I watched it years ago but I do not have much of a recollection of it.

The only redeeming features of the film Pearl Harbour to me is the excellent music (particularly during the Japanese cutscenes) and the very well chosen Japanese actors and filmography. This whole scene gives me the chills whenever I watch it...even if at one part you can tell it's filmed from a modern US angled flat-top. EDIT: Oh, yeah, and the deck is completely wrong for an IJN flat-top too, no wood.

[1480]

Tora Tora Tora, is the only movie me and the old lady sit down to watch together.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Hmmm, so about 17:48 GMT, although if you want to be really picky, one could say that the attack began at 16:37 when the USS Ward sank a midget submarine outside Pearl Harbour, or at 13:42 when the USS Condor spotted a periscope and alerted the USS Ward.

I think I will have to put Tora! Tora! Tora! on the Christmas DVD list with Gandhi and A Bridge Too Far. I'm pretty sure I watched it years ago but I do not have much of a recollection of it.

The only redeeming features of the film Pearl Harbour to me is the excellent music (particularly during the Japanese cutscenes) and the very well chosen Japanese actors and filmography. This whole scene gives me the chills whenever I watch it...even if at one part you can tell it's filmed from a modern US angled flat-top. EDIT: Oh, yeah, and the deck is completely wrong for an IJN flat-top too, no wood.

AND Josh Hartnett is a total hotty!!!!!!!

[August]

My all time favorite is the Band of Brothers mini series. IMO it doesn't have an equal so far.

[Sailor Steve]

And I feel just the opposite.

Originally Posted by Oberon

the very well chosen Japanese actors

While I am a huge fan of Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, the actor who played Fuchida in Tora! Tora! Tora! wasn't six feet tall and actually looked like Fuchida. On the other hand the actor who played Admiral Kimmel looked a lot more like the real thing than Martin Balsam did.

and filmography. This whole scene gives me the chills whenever I watch it...even if at one part you can tell it's filmed from a modern US angled flat-top.

That same complaint was made about Tora! Tora! Tora!. Some things just can't be helped.

I can't put up the comparable scene from Tora!, simply because there doesn't seem to be one on the internet anywhere. But trust me, you'll be amazed at how much the carrier launch scene was stolen and at how much better the original was, and still is.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by 1480

AND Josh Hartnett is a total hotty!!!!!!!

Wow, there's a surprise. I thought you'd fancied the Afflack dude?



No



No


That's the one!

BANZAAAAAIIIII!!!!!!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Hmmm, so about 17:48 GMT, although if you want to be really picky, one could say that the attack began at 16:37 when the USS Ward sank a midget submarine outside Pearl Harbour, or at 13:42 when the USS Condor spotted a periscope and alerted the USS Ward.

I won't be around at 17:48 GMT so I'm saluting all those that fell on that day now.

This date has a double meaning to me because it is the second anniversary of my fathers death.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I won't be around at 17:48 GMT so I'm saluting all those that fell on that day now.

This date has a double meaning to me because it is the second anniversary of my fathers death.

I know,I hope he can rest in peace

[Jimbuna]

Thank you...appreciated.