Cain Reassessing Candidacy Amid New Allegations - Page 2

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 02:49 PM

Is it 'sexual harassment' that smeared Cain last week? What happened to these women who got in front of the camera saying Cain was all over them like a cheap suit? Interesting nothing else is said or pursued.

Now we have this woman and an affair....

Extra-marital affairs are not against the law as far as I know. Of what reason does this woman have for coming out and stating she was having a good time with the pizza guy? What good does it serve?

Moving along.....

Gerald · 11-30-11, 02:56 PM

"It was pretty simple," Ginger White said of the affair she recounted having had with Mr. Cain. "It wasn't complicated."

August · 11-30-11, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Is it 'sexual harassment' that smeared Cain last week? What happened to these women who got in front of the camera saying Cain was all over them like a cheap suit? Interesting nothing else is said or pursued.

The object was to sink his candidacy. Mission accomplished. No need to keep them in the limelight any longer and run the risk of someone digging too deep and finding out the allegations were mostly trumped up fluff.

Iron Budokan · 11-30-11, 03:15 PM

You can start the egg-timer on this guy's candidacy. He's done.

Gerald · 11-30-11, 03:19 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...l?ref=politics

Takeda Shingen · 11-30-11, 03:32 PM

Honestly, he was never a serious candidate to begin with. If this was an effort to sink the SS Cain, then it was effort poorly spent. He would have fizzled out once campaign season proper began.

It's been clear since the beginning that Romney was, and is, going to be the candidate.

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by August

The object was to sink his candidacy. Mission accomplished. No need to keep them in the limelight any longer and run the risk of someone digging too deep and finding out the allegations were mostly trumped up fluff.

Exactly!

So what if he dipped his wick. I wonder if they really feel Cain is still a threat?

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

It's been clear since the beginning that Romney was, and is, going to be the candidate.

I have my reservations on Romney being their boy. There are many questions....running mate for one.

Takeda Shingen · 11-30-11, 03:49 PM

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I have my reservations on Romney being their boy. There are many questions....running mate for one.

Oh, I am certainly not a Romney supporter either. Politically, the guy is a loser, like John Kerry in 2004. And, like Kerry, the unfortunate reality is that Romney is the strongest guy in the field, which says very little for the strength of the candidates. So we'll have 4 more years of Obama, after which the candidates from both Team R and Team D can run on the platform 'Getting our Nation off the Barter System'.

vienna · 11-30-11, 03:55 PM

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So what if he dipped his wick. I wonder if they really feel Cain is still a threat?

So, I'm going to guess, you supported Clinton, too? I know, I know, the difference is Clinton lied under oath. If you take the position of "So what if he dipped his wick", then the implication is you have some belief there is truth to the allegations. If so, then Cain's denials are also lies, albeit not under oath. Still, would you really want to vote for a candidate who openly lies (and badly, at that)? "Lie a little, lie a lot"...

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Oh, I am certainly not a Romney supporter either. Politically, the guy is a loser, like John Kerry in 2004. And, like Kerry, the unfortunate reality is that Romney is the strongest guy in the field, which says very little for the strength of the candidates. So we'll have 4 more years of Obama, after which the candidates from both Team R and Team D can run on the platform 'Getting our Nation off the Barter System'.

I would not agree Romney is the strongest guy in the field. I believe Newt is the strongest in the field when it comes to working knowledge and self-assuredness. I think in a real debate with Obama he would win handedly. Romney is a bit more likable than Newt who is stiff. If it was down to these two Newt would be my choice.

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

So, I'm going to guess, you supported Clinton, too? I know, I know, the difference is Clinton lied under oath. If you take the position of "So what if he dipped his wick", then the implication is you have some belief there is truth to the allegations. If so, then Cain's denials are also lies, albeit not under oath. Still, would you really want to vote for a candidate who openly lies (and badly, at that)? "Lie a little, lie a lot"...

Clinton was ok in my book. Supported him? Nope, I did not vote for him. It does not matter if I believe there is truth or not to Cains current debacle. It is not any of my business if he has had an affair. It is not against the law. As far as openly voting for a candidate that lies....it has gone on for decades. I mean come on....Clinton hit the joint but did not inhale? Sure...

There has been lies in Oval Office. Ask Oliver North how he ended up where he did. Ask Holder what he knew and did not know about Fast and Furious. Think Obama knew about it? I'm guessing he did. The list goes on.

geetrue · 11-30-11, 04:17 PM

Romney is the only logical choice left, unless someone new comes on the playing field. I saw him playing up to that NJ gov trying to get his support (which he did) and my thought is that he already made a deal to be his VP canidate.

Newt can't hold up under close scrunity of millions in lobby money and then state he was not taking their side in convincing others to do things his non lobby money was coming from, especially the health care money to be in favor of them and then deny he was a lobby person.

As the field narrows Romney is the most clean person running.

He lost last time in Iowa and may very well lose there again this time.

A very big effort is in vogue to defeat Romney in Iowa.

LDS is a cult, but most people don't even care

Obama already said that he is waiting to see who the last one on the island will be.

Like Takeda said, "I am not a Romney supporter"

I am not either, but when you only have a couple of choices left, like in football, only one side can win.

vienna · 11-30-11, 04:19 PM

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As far as openly voting for a candidate that lies....it has gone on for decades. I mean come on....Clinton hit the joint but did not inhale? Sure...

There has been lies in Oval Office. Ask Oliver North how he ended up where he did. Ask Holder what he knew and did not know about Fast and Furious. Think Obama knew about it? I'm guessing he did. The list goes on.

So, perhaps, the key here is to vote for the candidate who lies the best?...

AVGWarhawk · 11-30-11, 04:20 PM

"Write in" vote.

11-30-11, 02:49 PM	#16
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Is it 'sexual harassment' that smeared Cain last week? What happened to these women who got in front of the camera saying Cain was all over them like a cheap suit? Interesting nothing else is said or pursued. Now we have this woman and an affair.... Extra-marital affairs are not against the law as far as I know. Of what reason does this woman have for coming out and stating she was having a good time with the pizza guy? What good does it serve? Moving along..... __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	"It was pretty simple," Ginger White said of the affair she recounted having had with Mr. Cain. "It wasn't complicated." __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	You can start the egg-timer on this guy's candidacy. He's done. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...l?ref=politics __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-30-11, 04:17 PM	#28
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Romney is the only logical choice left, unless someone new comes on the playing field. I saw him playing up to that NJ gov trying to get his support (which he did) and my thought is that he already made a deal to be his VP canidate. Newt can't hold up under close scrunity of millions in lobby money and then state he was not taking their side in convincing others to do things his non lobby money was coming from, especially the health care money to be in favor of them and then deny he was a lobby person. As the field narrows Romney is the most clean person running. He lost last time in Iowa and may very well lose there again this time. A very big effort is in vogue to defeat Romney in Iowa. LDS is a cult, but most people don't even care Obama already said that he is waiting to see who the last one on the island will be. Like Takeda said, "I am not a Romney supporter" I am not either, but when you only have a couple of choices left, like in football, only one side can win. __________________

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Honestly, he was never a serious candidate to begin with. If this was an effort to sink the SS Cain, then it was effort poorly spent. He would have fizzled out once campaign season proper began. It's been clear since the beginning that Romney was, and is, going to be the candidate.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	"Write in" vote. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road