[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0

Fish40 · 11-12-11, 11:43 AM

Hi guys, I posted about this bug in RFB awhile ago, and it seems it's still there. The Medium Old Composit Freighter remains unsinkable! Can anyone else confirm this? I'm running RFB2.0 + RSRD and updates, plus some compatable mods. It's July 44' off the coast of Borneo. I came across this freighter in rough seas, and hit her with 2 torps. She listed and remained like that. I then gave her another shot from the Bow, and then turned to bring the Stern tubes to bear. To make a long story short, after 7 torps this ship remained afloat! I time compressed several hours, and she remained in the same state. I was forced to eat the attack and move on.

TorpX · 11-12-11, 06:42 PM

I've never had "unsinkable" targets, but it does seem that they often sink very slowly. I don't play that much, so there could well be such ships for all I know.

I think they made a error in the fundamental assumptions with their model. Namely, that a ship's compartment had to sustain heavy damage (80% or whatever) before it would flood. In RL, any torpedo that detonates below the waterline of a merchant vessel, would be guaranteed to blow a large hole in the hull. Allied merchants that survived german torpedo attacks (most did not), had 20 to 30 ft. holes in their hulls. In these circumstances, it is not a question of if the compartment floods, but rather how quickly it floods, and will flooding be limited to only one compartment.

mido · 12-09-11, 02:26 PM

How is the damage repair really activated? I noticed that after I took some damage from an air attack that nothing would be repaired although crew was on battle stations and the damage control team was activated. I watched the red little bar next to the damaged station and accelerated to TCx256 and waited several hours but the status of the damaged stations would stay the same. What am I doing wrong or what am I missing? I am using SH4 1.5 + RFB 2.0 + patch + corresponding RSRDC + patch.

Fish40 · 12-09-11, 04:39 PM

@ Mido, be sure that the area you want repaired is at the top of the priority list. Also, certain areas may not be able to be repaired at sea, or while submerged. What exactly was damaged?

mido · 12-09-11, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

@ Mido, be sure that the area you want repaired is at the top of the priority list. Also, certain areas may not be able to be repaired at sea, or while submerged. What exactly was damaged?

Thanks for your reply, the damage was torpedo tubes and something like dive gear front... and other stuff I don't recall exactly. But the problem is that all the damaged stations showed little red bars on the right side and would tell you numbers like 0,19, 0,32, 3.5 etc but these numbers would never change to show any progress of the repair.

I was surfaced when I tried to repair the damage.

I just "escaped" from the situation and started it again from the last save.

mido · 12-16-11, 11:55 PM

Finally I got everything to work but now I got a new submarine (Gato class) and there are no slots to man the deck gun!? Anybody knows how to man the deck gun in a Gato class submarine with RFB? There is Hogan's Ally, Damage Control Team and AA Gun but no deck gun although the deck gun is there.

TorpX · 12-17-11, 12:46 AM

You should be able to see all the crew slots when you toggle off the HUD. Use the [Del/ . ] key, I think.

Fish40 · 12-24-11, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Hi guys, I posted about this bug in RFB awhile ago, and it seems it's still there. The Medium Old Composit Freighter remains unsinkable! Can anyone else confirm this? I'm running RFB2.0 + RSRD and updates, plus some compatable mods. It's July 44' off the coast of Borneo. I came across this freighter in rough seas, and hit her with 2 torps. She listed and remained like that. I then gave her another shot from the Bow, and then turned to bring the Stern tubes to bear. To make a long story short, after 7 torps this ship remained afloat! I time compressed several hours, and she remained in the same state. I was forced to eat the attack and move on.

OK, this is a real problem for me. This ship does not sink (for me). I can't understand it. My mods are all compatable, so I don't get it. I hit this ship in the Formosa Strait with a 3 torpedo spread. Two detonated near the forward mast, and one near the funnel. She came to a complete stop, began to list, and stayed put!

I should have known better than to press home the attack knowing the problem I have with this ship. It seems to be the only one, as every other ship I attack goes down. I can't figure this one out.

mido · 12-25-11, 01:02 AM

I just finished a patrol and sank 5 of them (Yes, Medium Old Composite Freighters), 4 of them with one torpedo impact (the other were duds) and one with two explosions. The longest "sinking time" was about 2 1/2 hours and I accelerated it with about 50 deck gun rounds. All that happened on a patrol in the Marshall and Gilbert Islands with RFB / RSRDC. Since I am playing without map updates my targeting is not perfect and the torpedoes almost never hit exactly where I am aiming at but they hit somewhere.

How long are you waiting? What time do you expect for the sinking?

11-12-11, 06:42 PM	#2
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I've never had "unsinkable" targets, but it does seem that they often sink very slowly. I don't play that much, so there could well be such ships for all I know. I think they made a error in the fundamental assumptions with their model. Namely, that a ship's compartment had to sustain heavy damage (80% or whatever) before it would flood. In RL, any torpedo that detonates below the waterline of a merchant vessel, would be guaranteed to blow a large hole in the hull. Allied merchants that survived german torpedo attacks (most did not), had 20 to 30 ft. holes in their hulls. In these circumstances, it is not a question of if the compartment floods, but rather how quickly it floods, and will flooding be limited to only one compartment.

12-09-11, 02:26 PM	#3
mido Engineer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 203 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 1	Damage Repair? How is the damage repair really activated? I noticed that after I took some damage from an air attack that nothing would be repaired although crew was on battle stations and the damage control team was activated. I watched the red little bar next to the damaged station and accelerated to TCx256 and waited several hours but the status of the damaged stations would stay the same. What am I doing wrong or what am I missing? I am using SH4 1.5 + RFB 2.0 + patch + corresponding RSRDC + patch.

11-12-11, 11:43 AM	#1
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, I posted about this bug in RFB awhile ago, and it seems it's still there. The Medium Old Composit Freighter remains unsinkable! Can anyone else confirm this? I'm running RFB2.0 + RSRD and updates, plus some compatable mods. It's July 44' off the coast of Borneo. I came across this freighter in rough seas, and hit her with 2 torps. She listed and remained like that. I then gave her another shot from the Bow, and then turned to bring the Stern tubes to bear. To make a long story short, after 7 torps this ship remained afloat! I time compressed several hours, and she remained in the same state. I was forced to eat the attack and move on.

12-09-11, 04:39 PM	#4
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	@ Mido, be sure that the area you want repaired is at the top of the priority list. Also, certain areas may not be able to be repaired at sea, or while submerged. What exactly was damaged?

12-16-11, 11:55 PM	#6
mido Engineer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 203 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 1	Finally I got everything to work but now I got a new submarine (Gato class) and there are no slots to man the deck gun!? Anybody knows how to man the deck gun in a Gato class submarine with RFB? There is Hogan's Ally, Damage Control Team and AA Gun but no deck gun although the deck gun is there.

12-17-11, 12:46 AM	#7
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	You should be able to see all the crew slots when you toggle off the HUD. Use the [Del/ . ] key, I think.

12-25-11, 01:02 AM	#9
mido Engineer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 203 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 1	I just finished a patrol and sank 5 of them (Yes, Medium Old Composite Freighters), 4 of them with one torpedo impact (the other were duds) and one with two explosions. The longest "sinking time" was about 2 1/2 hours and I accelerated it with about 50 deck gun rounds. All that happened on a patrol in the Marshall and Gilbert Islands with RFB / RSRDC. Since I am playing without map updates my targeting is not perfect and the torpedoes almost never hit exactly where I am aiming at but they hit somewhere. How long are you waiting? What time do you expect for the sinking?