Sharon Bialek accuses Herman Cain of groping her

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

'Predator' implies that the women that Clinton had sexual relationships with were underage. I was not aware that this was the case, so either I am misinformed or you are taking a political cheap shot. I'd say the likelyhood of either is about 50-50.

I'd say you were misinformed as "Predator" implies no such thing. You're saying that a serial rapist is not a sexual predator?

Bill Clinton was a much milder version but he was a sexual predator nonetheless.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

I'd say you were misinformed as "Predator" implies no such thing. You're saying that a serial rapist is not a sexual predator?

Bill Clinton was a much milder version but he was a sexual predator nonetheless.

Type 'sexual predator' into Google and see what you get. That is unless you were claiming that Clinton had raped these women. At the very least, you are stretching the term to prove a political point. I though you above this sort of thing, but perhaps I have misjudged you. Wouldn't be the first time that I was wrong about someone.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Type 'sexual predator' into Google and see what you get. That is unless you were claiming that Clinton had raped these women. At the very least, you are stretching the term to prove a political point. I though you above this sort of thing, but perhaps I have misjudged you. Wouldn't be the first time that I was wrong about someone.

Oh get off your high horse pal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_predator

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Oh get off your high horse pal.

I could turn that one right around on you. How many times have you accused people of playing these very sort of semantics?

EDIT in response to your edit:

From the Wiki (emphasis mine):

A sexual predator is often used to refer to a person who habitually seeks out sexual situations that are deemed exploitative. However, in some states, the term "sexual predator" is applied to anyone who has been convicted of certain crimes, regardless of whether or not there is a history of similar behavior.

Exploitative:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploitative

It is, at best, difficult to label consensual relations between adults as exploitative. I suppose that you would argue that the power inherent in Clinton's position implies exploit, but I see that line of argument as tenuous at best.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I could turn that one right around on you. How many times have you accused people of playing these very sort of semantics?

Go right ahead.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Go right ahead.

A simple read of your post history will find a number of statements. If you are going to conveniently forget about your complaints regarding people splitting hairs in order to prove a point, there is no point in attempting to engage you in discussion. After all, both you and I know that those complaints are there; it is silly for us to pretend that they are not. If you are so concerned with being 'right' that you are prepared to sacrifice intellectual honesty, then I have no time for you.

Somebody's stock just lost a hefty amount of value in my book.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Somebody's stock just lost a hefty amount of value in my book.

Oh woe is me! Cause you know my entire world revolves around your opinion of my opinion of Bill Clinton.

So what has put the burr under your saddle about me suddenly?

First you come off with some lame redefinition of a commonly used term and then you try to split hairs once your inaccuracy is brought to light.

Well tell me Mister Judgement, what was so consensual about Clinton exposing himself to Paula Jones? What was so consensual about him groping Kathleen Wiley? What was so consensual about him raping Juanita Broaddrick?

He paid Paula Jones 20 times what the National Restaurant Association supposedly paid this Karen Kraushaar woman and you question my fairness. Ain't that a hoot.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I could turn that one right around on you. How many times have you accused people of playing these very sort of semantics?

EDIT in response to your edit:

From the Wiki (emphasis mine):



Exploitative:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploitative

It is, at best, difficult to label consensual relations between adults as exploitative. I suppose that you would argue that the power inherent in Clinton's position implies exploit, but I see that line of argument as tenuous at best.

Exploitative is for anyone in a position of authority or respect, uses said status for personal gain. Personal gain can mean, money, influence, sex, favors and the list can go on.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by 1480

Exploitative is for anyone in a position of authority or respect, uses said status for personal gain. Personal gain can mean, money, influence, sex, favors and the list can go on.

A comparison that I labeled tenuous. As we are discussing matters of a sexual nature, we must confine ourselves to sexual matters. After all, one must concede that Clinton would have little to gain in material or political capital. We could only assume that his motives were purely physical.