Halal and Kosher hit by Dutch ban

11-06-11, 05:35 AM

What is it with political parties that put the word "freedom" in their name?

Gerald · 11-06-11, 05:58 AM

There is certainly some political vegetarians, which exerts pressure.

Skybird · 11-06-11, 06:15 AM

I once thouight that these ways of slaughtering are even less painful then conventional slaughtering, but I learned from several sources that my assessment and beliefs probbaly are wrong and that they mean even more suffering and pain for the animal.

That's why I am against both.

My respect for these two religions is small to non-existent already, and if they demand that the anmial you eat must be brought to death especially painfully, then this does not help to reverse my opinion on said religions.

A legal ban would be appropriate, not only because it is primitive and cruel, but due to animal protection laws, too.

Gerald · 11-06-11, 06:29 AM

_dgn_ · 11-06-11, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A legal ban would be appropriate, not only because it is primitive and cruel, but due to animal protection laws, too.

Problem is not the law, but its application.

In France, there are such laws about animal protection, for the same reasons. But there are too exemptions for Jews and Muslims ...

So law is not the same for everybody.

"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" is the motto of the French Republic.

Equality ?

Gerald · 11-06-11, 12:20 PM

More Kebab,to the people.

tater · 11-06-11, 12:41 PM

Seems to me there should never be religious exceptions for anything.

11-06-11, 01:16 PM

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Seems to me there should never be religious exceptions for anything.

Don't tell Santa, he will think you dug up Oliver again

_dgn_ · 11-06-11, 06:13 AM

It seems that in some European countries (Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland ...) ritual methods of slaughtering animals for food are banned.

Laws about animal welfare are made for everybody, whatever its religion.

If some people want eat particular food (or meat), they can import it : it's not prohibited.

About this next law in the Netherlands, what is the opinion of the WWF, which generally protect animals ?

Jimbuna · 11-06-11, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

What is it with political parties that put the word "freedom" in their name?

I've always felt that way about the 'Labour' party.

antikristuseke · 11-07-11, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

What is it with political parties that put the word "freedom" in their name?

It's sort of similar to countries which have democratic in their names, but none of them are.

HunterICX · 11-07-11, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

It's sort of similar to countries which have democratic in their names, but none of them are.

Don't you mean all of them?

HunterICX

11-06-11, 05:58 AM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	There is certainly some political vegetarians, which exerts pressure. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,632 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I once thouight that these ways of slaughtering are even less painful then conventional slaughtering, but I learned from several sources that my assessment and beliefs probbaly are wrong and that they mean even more suffering and pain for the animal. That's why I am against both. My respect for these two religions is small to non-existent already, and if they demand that the anmial you eat must be brought to death especially painfully, then this does not help to reverse my opinion on said religions. A legal ban would be appropriate, not only because it is primitive and cruel, but due to animal protection laws, too. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	__________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	More Kebab,to the people. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Seems to me there should never be religious exceptions for anything. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

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11-06-11, 06:13 AM	#9
_dgn_ Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: France Posts: 122 Downloads: 331 Uploads: 0	It seems that in some European countries (Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland ...) ritual methods of slaughtering animals for food are banned. Laws about animal welfare are made for everybody, whatever its religion. If some people want eat particular food (or meat), they can import it : it's not prohibited. About this next law in the Netherlands, what is the opinion of the WWF, which generally protect animals ?