Has America become an oligarchy?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Edit: Sorry Skybird, i will stop.

Na, no need to apologize, I just think it would be nice if you two just settle your little argument more in private. Having been in your places myself repeatedly, I know how pretty much in vain it is to battle it out in a thread.

[JU_88]

This is a good one, nice an simple in its explaination

[Skybird]

"All we can do is prepare for what may be VERY extraordinary circumstances."

^ This.

And maybe this will not save nevertheless the individual person that everybody of us is. In fact we already can see that it doesn'T. More and more people are finding themselves in free fall, without it being their individual fault. And it is worstening, spreading, and speeding up.

It'S like I am always saying: economics are not complicated. Complicated are only the efforts to hide disadvantages of the current system, or not to allow people becoming aware oif the unwanted truth about reality, to make moire lemmings willingly and peacefully climbing up to the top of the cliff.

Once up there they will either jump voluntarily, or pushed from the lemmings in their rear.

I'm worried by our forseeable future perspectives. And my personal perspective as well. As I see it, we quickly run out of options. A decline in the number of available options is not good.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by JU_88

The mocking false apology was made out of genuine frustration for all of the above,
I lost my patience and for that i apologise to you.

No need really, as I feel, as I always do, pretty much the same way. I didn't mean to push any buttons, just to disagree.

Originally Posted by Skybird

I know how pretty much in vain it is to battle it out in a thread.

But it's so much more fun.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

No need really, as I feel, as I always do, pretty much the same way. I didn't mean to push any buttons, just to disagree.


But it's so much more fun.

I am as much to blame, dont worry about it - you know I love you really

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But it's so much more fun.

At first, maybe, but remember our own example, you and me. We started relaxed and "light", and ended somewhat bitter, and not agreeing one bit more on things. I was frustrated , and you were so angry that you said you would ignore me in the future. What have we acchieved? Not much, I would say.

That'S why I now sometimes chose to not even answer anymore to somebody. Not because it is that somebody, but because I see it outlined already in his reply where it would lead.

In German we say "von Stöcksken zu Hölzken", by meaning it translates into "from small pieces to even smaller pieces". It means to get lost and frittered first over sentences two postings ago, then over words five postings ago, and in the end over single syllables and punctuation in a different thread. The original argument then already plays no more role anymore - since long.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by JU_88

I am as much to blame, dont worry about it - you know I love you really

Just keep it platonic.

Originally Posted by Skybird

I was frustrated , and you were so angry that you said you would ignore me in the future.

Only because of the names you called me, and that when I was agreeing with you in principle if not in specifics. I was never angry about the argument itself. I just don't do that. I do, however, say things in a manner that provokes the other guy, for which I will always apologize, since I can't seem to help doing it.

[Skybird]

Naturally, back then I saw that very differently than you say now.



Maybe we should analyse it again, this time thoroughly and in depth.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Naturally, back then I saw that very differently than you say now.



Maybe we should analyse it again, this time thoroughly and in depth.

If we can stay away from the fireworks, I would be honored.

[Skybird]

1-2 hours of researching the forum software and collecting records on when who said what and where, in reference to what posting earlier, which was a reply to something before that, claiming contexts the other denied or forgot or rejected, and this over several different discussion threads on the same principle issue, with many diverting sub-discussions on micromanaged sub-level details in...

[intervention mode on]
*** FULL STOP ... WARNING ... SELF-DESTRUCTION IS IMMINENT ***
[intervention mode off]


As long as one cannot get an academic grade for that, I think I pass on it. Using SPSS for the statistics part of my diploma study was easier.

[soopaman2]

Is America is Oligarchy?

The real question is how long has it been one?

Trickle down economics era (St. Ronald), or even longer? I say longer.

I believe we have been one since WW2, when the airplane and munitions factories saw how profitable war was.

America just seems to get into less and less noble wars since then.
Korea was a proxy war between us and the USSR.

Vietnam was as well ultimatly, we tried to help the French, and they ran away and left us with a bucket of feces that killed 60,000 men, and had many more brave survivors spit on by people like Jane Fonda.

First desert storm was the only real noble one (or was it?), and if that was some garbage pit in Malacca we would not have cared... But the OIL!

Last 2? Iraq, Afghanistan?
Sorry, utter bullcrap, people got rich but the American people lost.
(I lost alot in these 2)

Military Industrial Complex... Ask Ike.

How about the prison industry? Filthy potheads in prison with killers and arsonists, and getting heavier sentences in some cases..

Thats another thread..