Days on Patrol

PappyCain · 10-30-11, 02:43 PM

I wish we had a 'provisions' add-on mod in SH3 Cmdr. so when we ran low on pickled pigs feet and pickled eggs we would have to head home.
Just a bit more immersion ...

"Herr Kaleun, we have rations for only 9 more days"
"No problem Gunter, we will scrape the hull keel and make soup"

"Herr Kaleun, we have 2 days toilet paper in reserve"
"No problem Gunter, pass out spoons, forks and knives"

"Herr Kaleun, both heads have stopped functioning!"
"No problem Gunter, serve "dump-lings"

Sailor Steve · 10-30-11, 03:44 PM

There is no evidence that any u-boat ever had to head home due to lack of food. I'm not sure if that's because they just didn't mention it, but the fact is they didn't mention it.
http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,73516,73533
http://www.uboat.net/men/foodstuffs.htm

A ton-and-a-half of potatoes.
A ton-and-a-half-of-veggies.
A quarter-ton of eggs.
A ton of bread.
A quarter-ton of butter.
Three-quarter-ton of milk.
A ton of fruit.

And that's just the perishables, which they say were consumed in the first two weeks.

Two-and-a-half tons of meat.

Note a Type IX carried food for 12 weeks at sea. Not likely to have problems.

CCIP · 10-30-11, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There is no evidence that any u-boat ever had to head home due to lack of food. I'm not sure if that's because they just didn't mention it, but the fact is they didn't mention it.
http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,73516,73533
http://www.uboat.net/men/foodstuffs.htm

A ton-and-a-half of potatoes.
A ton-and-a-half-of-veggies.
A quarter-ton of eggs.
A ton of bread.
A quarter-ton of butter.
Three-quarter-ton of milk.
A ton of fruit.

And that's just the perishables, which they say were consumed in the first two weeks.

Two-and-a-half tons of meat.

Note a Type IX carried food for 12 weeks at sea. Not likely to have problems.

The figure that I've seen cited most is 90 days. In terms of storage space, Type IX/IXB/IXC boats were actually not much larger than the VIIs, most of their larger size being due to more fuel and weapons, and larger engines. 3-month patrols without resupply wouldn't have been an especially unusual thing, and even the VIIs could be prepared for them.

They were also good at preparing for long patrols. Boats heading for Drumbeat patrols off North America were packed chock full of supplies just in case, precisely so they wouldn't have to return for lack of supplies. They probably could've lasted even longer out there.

IXDs were, on the other hand, substantially larger, so they definitely had the space for these intensely long patrols.

Too bad for the Germans they never got to go on a long patrol on XXIs! Those were the first to feature refrigerators.

1480 · 10-30-11, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There is no evidence that any u-boat ever had to head home due to lack of food. I'm not sure if that's because they just didn't mention it, but the fact is they didn't mention it.
http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,73516,73533
http://www.uboat.net/men/foodstuffs.htm

A ton-and-a-half of potatoes.
A ton-and-a-half-of-veggies.
A quarter-ton of eggs.
A ton of bread.
A quarter-ton of butter.
Three-quarter-ton of milk.
A ton of fruit.

And that's just the perishables, which they say were consumed in the first two weeks.

Two-and-a-half tons of meat.

Note a Type IX carried food for 12 weeks at sea. Not likely to have problems.

Crew compliment's varied....

Not saying just saying....

CCIP · 10-30-11, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

Crew compliment's varied....

Not saying just saying....

Varied, but not by that much actually. Crews grew in size over the course of the war due to required specialists for various equipment, but you're still looking at between 43 and 50 for Type VIIs, and slightly larger for Type IXs. German crews were substantially smaller than those on most other nations' submarines. We all know Gerries don't like slack!

PappyCain · 10-30-11, 04:20 PM

haha - what was meant to be a joke has a serious side. In books I have read there were cases of U-Boats sending boarding parties unto local fisherman's boats at gunpoint. There was one case where one U-boat traded food with anothe U-Boat for 2 torpedoes to stay at sea. I am sure a few merchant ships had floating cargo that had foodstuffs ransacked. Not all boats operated close to a milch cow or a friendly port. Of course being German, they had plenty of cured meat and salt fish (ugh). But still, I am sure provisions could not have been plentiful on an extra long patrol that was not preplanned for. So what I am suggesting is for immersion sake we only eat one bag of potato chips while playing - no submarine sandwiches, no whole apple pies. Ration!

Sailor Steve · 10-30-11, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PappyCain

So what I am suggesting is for immersion sake we only eat one bag of potato chips while playing - no submarine sandwiches, no whole apple pies. Ration!

NEIN! NEIN! I vill never giff up my pizza!

Jimbuna · 10-30-11, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

NEIN! NEIN! I vill never giff up my pizza!

Then you'll simply have to 'bear' with us.

Sailor Steve · 10-30-11, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

Crew compliment's varied....

Not saying just saying....

Sorry. I was mainly responding to something you didn't say. We've had threads in the past from people wanting mods that let them run low on food, and the fact is that it just didn't seem to happen that way, which is why I posted as I did.

1480 · 10-30-11, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sorry. I was mainly responding to something you didn't say. We've had threads in the past from people wanting mods that let them run low on food, and the fact is that it just didn't seem to happen that way, which is why I posted as I did.

Since it is halloween, I was just insinuating cannibalism. Bad taste huh....

Sailor Steve · 10-30-11, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

Since it is halloween, I was just insinuating cannibalism. Bad taste huh....

Oh, not at all! I guess I missed that altogether. On the other hand, the "bad taste" might not be in bad taste, but it certainly made me spit out my soda...

PappyCain · 10-31-11, 12:41 PM

U-19, Type IIA (Kaleun Hans Best) has provisioned his boat for AN26. ETA is Oct. 29, 1939.

6 Bags of Wise Potato Chips
2 Large Coca Cola Bottles
4 Cartons of Homeade Brownies
2 Large Skim Milk Jugs
1 Can of Cafe Espresso
2 Seltzer Water Bottles
1 TUMS
1 Box Alka Seltzer

1480 · 10-31-11, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Oh, not at all! I guess I missed that altogether. On the other hand, the "bad taste" might not be in bad taste, but it certainly made me spit out my soda...

A little tabasco sauce makes anything edible....

10-30-11, 02:43 PM	#1
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I wish we had a 'provisions' add-on mod in SH3 Cmdr. so when we ran low on pickled pigs feet and pickled eggs we would have to head home. Just a bit more immersion ... "Herr Kaleun, we have rations for only 9 more days" "No problem Gunter, we will scrape the hull keel and make soup" "Herr Kaleun, we have 2 days toilet paper in reserve" "No problem Gunter, pass out spoons, forks and knives" "Herr Kaleun, both heads have stopped functioning!" "No problem Gunter, serve "dump-lings" __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html Last edited by PappyCain; 10-30-11 at 02:55 PM.

10-30-11, 03:44 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	There is no evidence that any u-boat ever had to head home due to lack of food. I'm not sure if that's because they just didn't mention it, but the fact is they didn't mention it. http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,73516,73533 http://www.uboat.net/men/foodstuffs.htm A ton-and-a-half of potatoes. A ton-and-a-half-of-veggies. A quarter-ton of eggs. A ton of bread. A quarter-ton of butter. Three-quarter-ton of milk. A ton of fruit. And that's just the perishables, which they say were consumed in the first two weeks. Two-and-a-half tons of meat. Note a Type IX carried food for 12 weeks at sea. Not likely to have problems. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-30-11, 04:20 PM	#6
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	haha - what was meant to be a joke has a serious side. In books I have read there were cases of U-Boats sending boarding parties unto local fisherman's boats at gunpoint. There was one case where one U-boat traded food with anothe U-Boat for 2 torpedoes to stay at sea. I am sure a few merchant ships had floating cargo that had foodstuffs ransacked. Not all boats operated close to a milch cow or a friendly port. Of course being German, they had plenty of cured meat and salt fish (ugh). But still, I am sure provisions could not have been plentiful on an extra long patrol that was not preplanned for. So what I am suggesting is for immersion sake we only eat one bag of potato chips while playing - no submarine sandwiches, no whole apple pies. Ration! __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

10-31-11, 12:41 PM	#12
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	U-19, Type IIA (Kaleun Hans Best) has provisioned his boat for AN26. ETA is Oct. 29, 1939. 6 Bags of Wise Potato Chips 2 Large Coca Cola Bottles 4 Cartons of Homeade Brownies 2 Large Skim Milk Jugs 1 Can of Cafe Espresso 2 Seltzer Water Bottles 1 TUMS 1 Box Alka Seltzer __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html