Another insulting and outrageous remark from an MSNBC reporter...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Feel free sir, whack away, I respect your opinion more than most here. I 'll just go away if it pleases you and the others here.j/k (I'm not, dont get your hopes up)

Nor would I want you to. But...

But I will stand up for what I believe in no matter what. Even if it means my banning for ticking off the old guard.

Nobody gets banned for ticking off anybody, including the Moderators and the Site Owner. And especially not for ticking off me, because in spite of post count and reputation, I'm really pretty much nobody as far at authority goes.

I just expect my views to be unpopular seeing how the demographic of the board is, hence my flaming references.

There are hard-core right-wingers here, and hard-core left-wingers. There are members of both sides who are not quite so rough around the edges. And there are some of us who truly are in the middle, taking one side or the other depending solely on the issue under discussion, and not supporting either actual "side". The biggest thing I take exception to is actually flaming. As do the Moderators and Neal. Discussions can and do get heated, and all of us have crossed the line more than once, and most of us are gracious enough to apologize when we do (or at least when we're called on it).

When I said I thought some of your comments deserved a reply, I was referring to the more-than-occasional flaming by yourself - not of other members here, but of people you disagree with in general ("Obammy", "Caucas-African", "Camilla the Ugly"). That kind of childish namd-calling serves no purpose, is not conducive to good debate, and we try to keep these forums above that level. Standing up for what you believe in is fine, even important, but if what you believe in is ridiculing people then you might want to take a look at yourself first.

So if someone does flame you for real, as does sometimes happen, we try to take care of it, no matter what "side" it comes from.

I did appreciate your admission of "self-hating", mainly because I have less respect for myself than I have for pretty much anyone else. I feel this keeps me from being condescending or dismissive, as I can't be an "ist" of any kind if I can't find someone more deserving of my scorn. So it that statement was true, you're in good company (or bad, depending on how you want to take it).