Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE - Page 164

Flyingsub · 10-25-11, 07:51 PM

Uninstalled Mep-3 and tried the mission again, and now get the shadow orders on first call followed by the pack assembled message.

h.sie · 10-26-11, 04:20 AM

@FlyingSub: Weird, I have no explaination why it works without MEP3 and it doesn't work with MEP3. On the other hand: Makman94 successfully tested the Wolfpack Mod with MEP3.

frau kaleun · 10-26-11, 07:52 AM

No clue if it would matter, but doesn't MEP change the sensors.dat and some related files?

don1reed · 10-26-11, 07:53 AM

Salute H.sie.

Just wanted to drop by and give you a big thanks for your work and the great new challenges it gives us. I play multiSH3: WAC, GWX, LSH3, NYGM, and one SH3 with your mods alone. I've added V16 to all five and I wish to report that all are working great.

Tnx agn.

h.sie · 10-26-11, 08:08 AM

@frau: true, but the AI-Subs do have their own file for sensors. I made this to prevent file conflicts due to overwriting.

@don: thanks for your report.

fitzcarraldo · 10-26-11, 09:05 AM

@H.sie: I sent you a PM with my Supplement files, for revision. No wolfpacks in my installation...

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

Flyingsub · 10-26-11, 12:16 PM

@H.sie: Maybe not Mep 3 but starting date of the mission. Starting it in default 1942 got no orders . With the date set to 1941 it works fine.

reaper7 · 10-26-11, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@FlyingSub: Weird, I have no explaination why it works without MEP3 and it doesn't work with MEP3. On the other hand: Makman94 successfully tested the Wolfpack Mod with MEP3.

All my Tests have also been with MEP3 Installed -had no problems at all.

Flyingsub · 10-26-11, 04:09 PM

After a mornings testing I can confirm Mep 3 is the issue with the mission in NYGM. I also tried MEP 2.1(16km) and LSH3 MEP (16km) with negative results. In all cases the the other U-Boat shows up on the map but can't get the orders. I have not tried MEP in campaign mode yet.Regards

h.sie · 10-26-11, 04:16 PM

Fitzcarraldo: I have tested your Supplement-Mod you sent me. It worked well for me. The debugger showed that the AI-Subs are loaded correctly and I was ordered to shadow the convoy.

But different to you I used a fresh GWX install, only with Wilhelmshaven campaign.
Please try with a fresh install - without that huge MOd list.

Note: My description in the README wasn't clear. I changed it as follows:

Do the following procedure:

Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack".

Set time compression to a high value and wait until you see a convoy.

Send a contact report, keep the distance to the convoy and wait for the reply of the BDU.

If you are ordered to attack alone, try again: Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack" and....(see above)

An order to shadow the convoy shows, that the AI-Uboats are installed correctly. If, even after 5 or 6 attempts, you always received the order to attack alone, the installation of the AI-Uboats went wrong very likely. Reread chapter 3.2).

That means: If you once are ordered to attack alone, this won't change. Start a new mission instead of sending multiple contact reports.

h.sie · 10-26-11, 04:18 PM

FlyingSub: MEP3 works for Makman, reaper, h.sie

fitzcarraldo · 10-26-11, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

Fitzcarraldo: I have tested your Supplement-Mod you sent me. It worked well for me. The debugger showed that the AI-Subs are loaded correctly and I was ordered to shadow the convoy.

But different to you I used a fresh GWX install, only with Wilhelmshaven campaign.
Please try with a fresh install - without that huge MOd list.

Note: My description in the README wasn't clear. I changed it as follows:

Do the following procedure:

Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack".

Set time compression to a high value and wait until you see a convoy.

Send a contact report, keep the distance to the convoy and wait for the reply of the BDU.

If you are ordered to attack alone, try again: Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack" and....(see above)

An order to shadow the convoy shows, that the AI-Uboats are installed correctly. If, even after 5 or 6 attempts, you always received the order to attack alone, the installation of the AI-Uboats went wrong very likely. Reread chapter 3.2).

That means: If you once are ordered to attack alone, this won't change. Start a new mission instead of sending multiple contact reports.

Many thanks, Hsie. I have a lot of mods...I´ll make a new installation with GWX only, and I´ll post the feedback.

My campaign SCR file (original), is from Wilhelmshaven v6, Merged Campaign.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

h.sie · 10-26-11, 04:26 PM

@Fitzcarraldo: Sorry, it will be some work for you, but I see no other chance. If it works, add your favourite mods one-by-one in order to see which of them could be the cause of the problems in conjunction with the wolfpacks. I'm very much interested to find out the reason......

Also, please try a new "SH3" folder in "own documents" (make a backup of the old one, in case it contains saved careers).

Always enable the Supplement-Mod at last.

Roland_RU · 10-26-11, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@Roland_RU: I havn't tried it out, since it makes no sense in my eyes and I'm satisfied with the current solution. But if someone manages to create Subs with a better AI, these could eventually replace the current VIIF.

No. Maybe my English is too bad.

I'm not talking about the type of AI-boats, but about their number. For example instead of 12 to insert 24 or 6?

And is it possible to ever simulation of real position of real wolfpacks?

fitzcarraldo · 10-26-11, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@Fitzcarraldo: Sorry, it will be some work for you, but I see no other chance. If it works, add your favourite mods one-by-one in order to see which of them could be the cause of the problems in conjunction with the wolfpacks. I'm very much interested to find out the reason......

Also, please try a new "SH3" folder in "own documents" (make a backup of the old one, in case it contains saved careers).

Always enable the Supplement-Mod at last.

I made two test with a fresh installation of SH3 plus GWX plus Wilhelmshaven mod v6, and Supplement. Wolfpack Mission played.

First test: Individual attack recommended, abandon mission, reload.

Second test: I obtain the messages of shadowing, send hourly reports, pack on the way. All OK. At 5:07 AM, I received a message: individual attack recommended. Abandon mission.

Is a carachteristic of the mod, to receive orders of shadowing and, after some time, the pack don´t arrive and receive orders of attack alone, or ever - when shadowing orders received - the pack arrives?

New tests in progress...

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

10-26-11, 04:20 AM	#2447
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@FlyingSub: Weird, I have no explaination why it works without MEP3 and it doesn't work with MEP3. On the other hand: Makman94 successfully tested the Wolfpack Mod with MEP3. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

10-26-11, 07:53 AM	#2449
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Salute H.sie. Just wanted to drop by and give you a big thanks for your work and the great new challenges it gives us. I play multiSH3: WAC, GWX, LSH3, NYGM, and one SH3 with your mods alone. I've added V16 to all five and I wish to report that all are working great. Tnx agn. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

10-26-11, 08:08 AM	#2450
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@frau: true, but the AI-Subs do have their own file for sensors. I made this to prevent file conflicts due to overwriting. @don: thanks for your report. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

10-26-11, 09:05 AM	#2451
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,318 Downloads: 3346 Uploads: 0	@H.sie: I sent you a PM with my Supplement files, for revision. No wolfpacks in my installation... Best regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

10-26-11, 04:16 PM	#2455
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Fitzcarraldo: I have tested your Supplement-Mod you sent me. It worked well for me. The debugger showed that the AI-Subs are loaded correctly and I was ordered to shadow the convoy. But different to you I used a fresh GWX install, only with Wilhelmshaven campaign. Please try with a fresh install - without that huge MOd list. Note: My description in the README wasn't clear. I changed it as follows: Do the following procedure: Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack". Set time compression to a high value and wait until you see a convoy. Send a contact report, keep the distance to the convoy and wait for the reply of the BDU. If you are ordered to attack alone, try again: Load Single-Mission "Wolfpack" and....(see above) An order to shadow the convoy shows, that the AI-Uboats are installed correctly. If, even after 5 or 6 attempts, you always received the order to attack alone, the installation of the AI-Uboats went wrong very likely. Reread chapter 3.2). That means: If you once are ordered to attack alone, this won't change. Start a new mission instead of sending multiple contact reports. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

10-25-11, 07:51 PM	#2446
Flyingsub Watch Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Frisco Bay Posts: 24 Downloads: 315 Uploads: 0	Uninstalled Mep-3 and tried the mission again, and now get the shadow orders on first call followed by the pack assembled message.

10-26-11, 07:52 AM	#2448
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	No clue if it would matter, but doesn't MEP change the sensors.dat and some related files?

10-26-11, 12:16 PM	#2452
Flyingsub Watch Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Frisco Bay Posts: 24 Downloads: 315 Uploads: 0	@H.sie: Maybe not Mep 3 but starting date of the mission. Starting it in default 1942 got no orders . With the date set to 1941 it works fine.

10-26-11, 04:09 PM	#2454
Flyingsub Watch Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Frisco Bay Posts: 24 Downloads: 315 Uploads: 0	After a mornings testing I can confirm Mep 3 is the issue with the mission in NYGM. I also tried MEP 2.1(16km) and LSH3 MEP (16km) with negative results. In all cases the the other U-Boat shows up on the map but can't get the orders. I have not tried MEP in campaign mode yet.Regards

10-26-11, 04:18 PM	#2456
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	FlyingSub: MEP3 works for Makman, reaper, h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

10-26-11, 04:26 PM	#2458
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Fitzcarraldo: Sorry, it will be some work for you, but I see no other chance. If it works, add your favourite mods one-by-one in order to see which of them could be the cause of the problems in conjunction with the wolfpacks. I'm very much interested to find out the reason...... Also, please try a new "SH3" folder in "own documents" (make a backup of the old one, in case it contains saved careers). Always enable the Supplement-Mod at last. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 10-26-11 at 04:39 PM.