NY bus accused of sex discrimination

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

It would be better if they kept it in temple and the home and didn't try and impose it on public transport where such discrimination is clearly illegal.

Yes it would be better.
It is the case with most orthodox Jews besides the hardcore ones.
Many orthodox Rabbis don't like the bus segregation and view it as unnecessary but there are always the hardcore zombies.

In Jerusalem you can easily ride a bus with orthodox and lite dressed women mixed together.
At rear occasions one can be asked politely to change seat to be next to a man so that woman can be next to women.
You can respect that or tell them to bugger off which happens sometimes as well.

There are also some kosher zombie lines that try to enforce the segregation mainly between strictly hardcore places...dumb as it may be.

Orthodox can be nuisance but don't have horns.

There are also some kosher zombie lines that try to enforce the segregation mainly between strictly hardcore places...dumb as it may be.

Illegal as it may be is the more accurate phrase.
Are not some of these "zombie lines" up for contempt of court for refusing to allow segregation to be "voluntary" and for refusing to post the notices that any attempts at forced segregation on their public buses are illegal?

Orthodox can be nuisance but don't have horns.

Some Orthodox can be a nuisance. You can't paint them all the same,that would be too orthodox

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Illegal as it may be is the more accurate phrase.
Are not some of these "zombie lines" up for contempt of court for refusing to allow segregation to be "voluntary" and for refusing to post the notices that any attempts at forced segregation on their public buses are illegal?

Its on voluntary base but since 99% of time the passengers are hardcore orthodox then its besides the point.
Its a case of status quo-they do their stuff in religious neighborhoods and secular in their own.
That's Jerusalem.....

NYC is different case.
As the NYC mayor put it-They can buy their own buses.

I simply hate how those things turn in to Jews do this... do that issue... because of ww2... blah ...blah.
If anyone can turn those anti Zionists into scientist and doctors ill be glad to know how it can be done.

Its on voluntary base but since 99% of time the passengers are hardcore orthodox then its besides the point.

It is supposed to be on a voluntary basis, the court cases have arisen because some of the orthodox and some of the buses won't accept voluntary segregation, they want it as enforced segregation.

Its a case of status quo-they do their stuff in religious neighborhoods and secular in their own.

Are you saying its an apartheid State?

NYC is different case.
As the NYC mayor put it-They can buy their own buses.

Actually its the same, in both cases the problem is that they are running a public bus service, it doesn't matter who owns the vehicles it only matters what they are operating them as.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Are you saying its an apartheid State?
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No i said that in Jerusalem we live as as we chose.
There are closed places where you cant drive car on shabbat and places where you can party all night.

No i said that in Jerusalem we live as as we chose.

Freedom of choice eh. Bit of a bugger if you have different views from the people down the road though.
We have been through this before with you denying that the religious extremists burn down business premesis outside "their" neighbourhoods(which itself is funny as starting a fire on Shabbat is supposed to be a no no)

There are closed places where you cant drive car on shabbat and places where you can party all night.

Yet the violent nuts come out of Mea Shearim and Guela and attack people and property in other neighbourhoods for not following their religious views, indeed they attack the police for trying to enforce the natons laws because in their apartheid view their little pure state is above Israel and its laws.
But hey observance of religious laws are voluntary ain't they, just like segregation on the buses

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Freedom of choice eh. Bit of a bugger if you have different views from the people down the road though.
We have been through this before with you denying that the religious extremists burn down business premesis outside "their" neighbourhoods(which itself is funny as starting a fire on Shabbat is supposed to be a no no)

I cant remember business burning in last 10 years.
There are pubs and restaurants opened on shabbat in Jerusalem.
The catch is that those restaurants will not have kosher certificate from rabbinate...
It seems its good for the business anyway.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yet the violent nuts come out of Mea Shearim and Guela and attack people and property in other neighbourhoods for not following their religious views, indeed they attack the police for trying to enforce the natons laws because in their apartheid view their little pure state is above Israel and its laws.
But hey observance of religious laws are voluntary ain't they, just like segregation on the buses

Sometime some hardcore Ultra orthodox Jews come out of their hoods and do some mess over various stupid issues.
Throwing diapers and burning trashcans while calling police nazis-yep holy jihad takes over Jerusalem..you win....



Orthodox are troublesome and complex issue for Israelis but not for any of the reasons you brought about.
Wish it was the greatest of problems here.