Child given drugs to delay onset of puberty - Page 2

August · 10-17-11, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I am appalled..Not at the story..But the spin put on it.

You're not appalled at the story? So you actually support what the parents are doing to this poor child, or is it just because it's Fox news that you need to knee jerk your way into excusing it?

MH · 10-17-11, 12:44 PM

FOX news is not "intellectual" i guess lol.

I admit that by not being so they sometimes get things right more often than others on some issues.

10-17-11, 12:54 PM

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I seem to recall they did with the woman who was having cosmetic surgery procedures done on her child. This seems like it's along the same lines.

Could the last bit be relevant in another way?
That other story made headlines everywhere, everyone was shocked as it was a really shocking story, you could even say unbelivable.
Then it turned out it wasn't her child and the child wasn't having cosmetic surgery and but the child protection agency did get involved because it was exploitation of a minor to sell a made up story.
Come to think of it wasn't it another Murdoch "news" outlet that discovered that story?

mookiemookie · 10-17-11, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Could the last bit be relevant in another way?
That other story made headlines everywhere, everyone was shocked as it was a really shocking story, you could even say unbelivable.
Then it turned out it wasn't her child and the child wasn't having cosmetic surgery and but the child protection agency did get involved because it was exploitation of a minor to sell a made up story.
Come to think of it wasn't it another Murdoch "news" outlet that discovered that story?

Oh seriously? I never saw the follow-up to that. Wow. That is pretty scummy.

10-17-11, 01:09 PM

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Oh seriously? I never saw the follow-up to that. Wow. That is pretty scummy.

It was covered in the topic here about 6 months ago.
Not saying that it is neccesarily the case with this story, but always take the news with a pinch of salt and if its a really shocking" OMG thats outrageous how on earth can people be so ...." take it with a whole barrel of salt.

JU_88 · 10-17-11, 01:11 PM

A horrible story about two horrible parents from a horrible news outlet

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-11, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

A horrible story about two horrible parents from a horrible news outlet

And horribly reported.

Sailor Steve · 10-17-11, 01:37 PM

It is an appaling story. On the other hand the the point is also valid that there are many horror stories among hetero couples that never get mentioned by Fox, let alone make front-page headlines. Why is that?

August · 10-17-11, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It is an appaling story. On the other hand the the point is also valid that there are many horror stories among hetero couples that never get mentioned by Fox, let alone make front-page headlines. Why is that?

A quick scan of their RSS feed headlines contradicts your claim Steve.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17...a-cruise-ship/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222202785001/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17...d-in-basement/

MH · 10-17-11, 02:02 PM

I'm all for guy's rights and all but its hard not to look at this strange connection here.
So for fairness lets see it as some guy craziness vs heterosexual craziness.

What's "Gender Spectrum" has to do with it and what is that organisation about?

August · 10-17-11, 02:05 PM

Sheesh, tough room here.

For the record I don't care whether it's a hetero couple or not.

For those who seem to doubt the story because they don't like the messenger how would you have prefer instead to see the story covered?

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-11, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Sheesh, tough room here.

For the record I don't care whether it's a hetero couple or not.

For those who seem to doubt the story because they don't like the messenger how would you have prefer instead to see the story covered?

Fox News is apparently hell spawned or something.

magicstix · 10-17-11, 07:18 PM

I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax on this one. The drugs delay puberty, they don't make it impossible.

In cases of gender dysphoric disorder this is done so that the child can become old enough to make decision for themselves as to what to do.

Given that testosterone causes irreversible changes, I'd say they're doing the right thing in letting the child grow old enough to decide whether or not he wants to change. If he grows out of it, then all he has to do is go off the drugs and he'll develop like anyone else. If he chooses to go through with a transition, he'll be far better off.

Reece · 10-17-11, 08:15 PM

Sick bastards!

magicstix · 10-17-11, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Sick bastards!

Yes those bastards! How dare they follow the treatment advice of a pediatric psychiatrist and treat their child's condition! MONSTERS!

You don't just go to to a Wal-mart and buy these puberty blocking drugs over the counter. The child is under the care and supervision of a medical doctor familiar with the case who knows more than a 5 minute sound bite on TV.

This isn't the first case of something like this occurring and it won't be the last. Gender Identity Disorder is in the DSM and has a known treatment. If behavior therapy worked on GID, they'd be using it, because it's a heck of a lot cheaper and easier than surgery and hormones.

10-17-11, 01:37 PM	#23
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It is an appaling story. On the other hand the the point is also valid that there are many horror stories among hetero couples that never get mentioned by Fox, let alone make front-page headlines. Why is that? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-17-11, 02:05 PM	#26
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,213 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sheesh, tough room here. For the record I don't care whether it's a hetero couple or not. For those who seem to doubt the story because they don't like the messenger how would you have prefer instead to see the story covered? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,732 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Sick bastards! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	FOX news is not "intellectual" i guess lol. I admit that by not being so they sometimes get things right more often than others on some issues.

10-17-11, 01:11 PM	#21
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	A horrible story about two horrible parents from a horrible news outlet

10-17-11, 02:02 PM	#25
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	I'm all for guy's rights and all but its hard not to look at this strange connection here. So for fairness lets see it as some guy craziness vs heterosexual craziness. What's "Gender Spectrum" has to do with it and what is that organisation about?

10-17-11, 07:18 PM	#28
magicstix Captain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nuclear submarine under the North Pole Posts: 481 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax on this one. The drugs delay puberty, they don't make it impossible. In cases of gender dysphoric disorder this is done so that the child can become old enough to make decision for themselves as to what to do. Given that testosterone causes irreversible changes, I'd say they're doing the right thing in letting the child grow old enough to decide whether or not he wants to change. If he grows out of it, then all he has to do is go off the drugs and he'll develop like anyone else. If he chooses to go through with a transition, he'll be far better off.