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Old 10-17-11, 12:34 PM   #1
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Is it on the front page? I don't normally read it.

But of course they MUST have an ulterior motive right?
Just thought it was funny that it was headline, top of the page news when you go to www.foxnews.com. Why else would they do that?


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Lunatics come in all shades and sizes, and sexual orientation. I can dig up thousands of stories of hetero couples abusing and even murdering their kids.
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Old 10-17-11, 12:54 PM   #2
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I seem to recall they did with the woman who was having cosmetic surgery procedures done on her child. This seems like it's along the same lines.
Could the last bit be relevant in another way?
That other story made headlines everywhere, everyone was shocked as it was a really shocking story, you could even say unbelivable.
Then it turned out it wasn't her child and the child wasn't having cosmetic surgery and but the child protection agency did get involved because it was exploitation of a minor to sell a made up story.
Come to think of it wasn't it another Murdoch "news" outlet that discovered that story?
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Could the last bit be relevant in another way?
That other story made headlines everywhere, everyone was shocked as it was a really shocking story, you could even say unbelivable.
Then it turned out it wasn't her child and the child wasn't having cosmetic surgery and but the child protection agency did get involved because it was exploitation of a minor to sell a made up story.
Come to think of it wasn't it another Murdoch "news" outlet that discovered that story?
Oh seriously? I never saw the follow-up to that. Wow. That is pretty scummy.
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Oh seriously? I never saw the follow-up to that. Wow. That is pretty scummy.
It was covered in the topic here about 6 months ago.
Not saying that it is neccesarily the case with this story, but always take the news with a pinch of salt and if its a really shocking" OMG thats outrageous how on earth can people be so ...." take it with a whole barrel of salt.
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A horrible story about two horrible parents from a horrible news outlet
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A horrible story about two horrible parents from a horrible news outlet

And horribly reported.
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Old 10-17-11, 01:37 PM   #7
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It is an appaling story. On the other hand the the point is also valid that there are many horror stories among hetero couples that never get mentioned by Fox, let alone make front-page headlines. Why is that?
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It is an appaling story. On the other hand the the point is also valid that there are many horror stories among hetero couples that never get mentioned by Fox, let alone make front-page headlines. Why is that?
A quick scan of their RSS feed headlines contradicts your claim Steve.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17...a-cruise-ship/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222202785001/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17...d-in-basement/
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Sick bastards!
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Sick bastards!
Yes those bastards! How dare they follow the treatment advice of a pediatric psychiatrist and treat their child's condition! MONSTERS!

You don't just go to to a Wal-mart and buy these puberty blocking drugs over the counter. The child is under the care and supervision of a medical doctor familiar with the case who knows more than a 5 minute sound bite on TV.

This isn't the first case of something like this occurring and it won't be the last. Gender Identity Disorder is in the DSM and has a known treatment. If behavior therapy worked on GID, they'd be using it, because it's a heck of a lot cheaper and easier than surgery and hormones.
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The child is under the care and supervision of a medical doctor familiar with the case who knows more than a 5 minute sound bite on TV.
Michael Jackson was under the care and supervision of a medical doctor familiar with the case who knows more than a 5 minute sound bite on TV and look where he ended up.
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So who's the authority then? Is it just me August, or are you actually arguing for the idea that legal guardians/family and licensed medicine are wrong and the society (and/or its representatives) is right and has a right to censure this particular issue?
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So who's the authority then? Is it just me August, or are you actually arguing for the idea that legal guardians/family and licensed medicine are wrong and the society (and/or its representatives) is right and has a right to censure this particular issue?
Maybe I think society has a right to think it's a bad idea how about that?
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Fair enough

It's a tricky situation though. I really have an aversion to 'trial by media' for a reason. That's why in cases like Jackson's, I'd rather legal and medical experts determine whether the doctor was wrong or right. On the other hand if they determine he was wrong, that won't bring Jackson back. Oops, too bad. Likewise, if here it turns out that the parents and doctors are wrong, that kid's gonna be pretty messed up. But perhaps at the end of the day, it's their prerogative to decide, and their responsibility to own up to consequences.

But ultimately I'd rather that media and popular thought keep a healthy distance from such decisions.
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Maybe I think society has a right to think it's a bad idea how about that?
We think of it a little differently but reach the same conclusion. Obviously my current sig disagrees with your statement here, but it is my opinion that the individual child has a right to not have his life chemically or artificially change for what the Founders called "light or transient reasons".

Just like my opinion on seat belt laws. I loathe the whole "Click It Or Ticket" campaigns, and I made that known when they sent me a letter asking for support. No adult should be forced to protect themselves from themselves, but children do have the right to be protected from abusive or negligent parents.

A little off-topic, I know, but the principle is the same.
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