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Old 10-14-11, 11:19 PM   #1
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TLAM, I don't miss the irony. However, just because they claim the mantle and blessing of the Almighty, doesn't make it so. Their actions are so anti-thetical to the commonly understood meaning of "Xtian" (at least here in the west) that the claim is ludicrous.

While one can debate theology all day long, the reality is that no organization that puts kids in the sex market, commits genocide and other horrors, is going to be taken seriously as a "Xtian" group in today's world. A few centuries ago - many groups that are now "mainstream" did exactly that - and were accepted. But not today.
Any time a group claims religion as an excuse for war its BS. But the point still stands that President Obama is sending troops to combat the LRA but not any of the Islamic militias and rebels that have been murdering civilians all across Africa. If you are to oppose genocide, you don't do it selectively.
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Old 10-14-11, 11:28 PM   #2
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Any time a group claims religion as an excuse for war its BS. But the point still stands that President Obama is sending troops to combat the LRA but not any of the Islamic militias and rebels that have been murdering civilians all across Africa. If you are to oppose genocide, you don't do it selectively.
On the other hand, if you do it unselectively, will you ever have enough resources to do that?

And in fairness, the US does occasionally hit the Islamic militants in Somalia etc. with drone strikes. To be honest, I don't think 100 boots intended for training and intelligence support are going to be any more effective than a predator or two making a hit every once in a while. Or, in other words, not terribly effective at all.
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Old 10-14-11, 11:43 PM   #3
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To be honest, I don't think 100 boots intended for training and intelligence support are going to be any more effective than a predator or two making a hit every once in a while. Or, in other words, not terribly effective at all.
100 or 200 men can stabilize countries in the region, no doubt about it. The UK and the French did that on some occasions the last 30 years.
Doesn't matter if they are called LRA or Eastside Boys or RUF, they have many names down there. If you hit them real good and without mercy they are really fast in running and surrendering these guys down there are not Talibans or Al Quaida.
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Old 10-14-11, 11:50 PM   #4
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100 or 200 men can stabilize countries in the region, no doubt about it. The UK and the French did that on some occasions the last 30 years.
Doesn't matter if they are called LRA or Eastside Boys or RUF, they have many names down there. If you hit them real good and without mercy they are really fast in running and surrendering these guys down there are not Talibans or Al Quaida.
Unfortunately these troops we're sending are probably going to come back home with some worse than usual psychological scars. Going up against the LRA means they're going to be killing more than a few children soldiers.
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Old 10-14-11, 11:57 PM   #5
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Unfortunately these troops we're sending are probably going to come back home with some worse than usual psychological scars. Going up against the LRA means they're going to be killing more than a few children soldiers.
Of course you kill more than a few Child soldiers, you whack them all.
That's the deal down there in the region, it was the same when the French were in Kolwezi 1978 and on many French Ops afterwards, whack them all and go home when the Job is done.
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Old 10-15-11, 07:03 AM   #6
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If you are to oppose genocide, you don't do it selectively.

Come on, be realistic. When in the history of the world had any country taken any military action that was not selective?
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Old 10-17-11, 09:26 AM   #7
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The new movie, "Machinegun Preacher", is about a man named Sam Childers. He built and runs an orphanage in South Sudan and has literally fought the LRA on numerous occasions to keep them away from his orphanage.

He gave a radio interview in 2007 in which he claimed the LRA was funded by the imams in northern Sudan, and that Joseph Kony, the LRA founder, and the LRA kill christians whenever they find them. He'd be in a position to know.

Joseph Kony is christian by background, but is just a whackjob. His 11th commandment prohibits bicycle riding?!?

I cringe everytime the MSM calls the LRA a christian army, as if their actions prove some kind of moral equivilancy between Christianity and Islam. To my knowledge, there are not 100 million screaming, chanting, marching, effigy burning christians worldwide who support the LRA's actions.
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Old 10-17-11, 09:39 AM   #8
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The new movie, "Machinegun Preacher", is about a man named Sam Childers. He built and runs an orphanage in South Sudan and has literally fought the LRA on numerous occasions to keep them away from his orphanage.

He gave a radio interview in 2007 in which he claimed the LRA was funded by the imams in northern Sudan, and that Joseph Kony, the LRA founder, and the LRA kill christians whenever they find them. He'd be in a position to know.

Joseph Kony is christian by background, but is just a whackjob. His 11th commandment prohibits bicycle riding?!?

I cringe everytime the MSM calls the LRA a christian army, as if their actions prove some kind of moral equivilancy between Christianity and Islam. To my knowledge, there are not 100 million screaming, chanting, marching, effigy burning christians worldwide who support the LRA's actions.
That movie looks quite good
I'm going to go see it with my friends
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