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Old 10-11-11, 01:30 PM   #1
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I watched this last week. O'Donnell should really consider another line of work.
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Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant)
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The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.
Disagree with you here. The public liked the thought of Perry, until he tanked a few debates. The big boys are backing Romney this time around.

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And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?
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And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?
You mean like overturn GoP primary results?
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You mean like overturn GoP primary results?
Exactly. I'm really believing at this point Cain is going to be much more prominent than first thought. He is getting his message out with little to no funding. People are responding to him....and in droves.
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Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance.

Sure I find his comments on the Wall Street Protestors repulsive. But that is just one facet of his character. It is an honest opinion and he didn't lie or dodge it like Obammy would have.

As said above, he recognizes the tax system is broken and needs to be equalized. It may mean more taxes across the brackets, but I am willing to pay for services (police, snow removal, fireman, education, first aid, SSI etc)
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Cain will certainly say some dumb things. They all say dumb things. There is the ever present watch for 'got'cha' questions. It is expected now.
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Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance.
as the resident belligerent liberal, I like this. I don't know if cain is any of this, but, I welcome a republican that actually supports individual liberties in all things, not just with guns, atheists and gays be dammed! I also would love to see a candidate who is also fiscally conservative when it comes to the defense budget, not just on all the social programs.
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You have to love the media or hate it......from the link above and posted again:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

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What is interesting is that this time around, with so many states moving their GOP primaries to earlier dates, and thus losing half their delegates because of it - it really changes the map when it comes to how important certain contests are.
But how many of the penalisable states are before the date?
Are there more or less States going to take penalties than in 2008?
It changes some contests on the map in terms of importance, but is it really a major change or a even a bigger change than last time.

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I think the jockeying is just the usual combination of local preferences mixed with the hope of local pork
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Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant)
You may be on the left I like your analysis, one of few lefties on here who are fair and mostly cordial.

Curious, why do you find Cain's comments about the Occupy Wall Street repulsive? The protesters are quite disgusting, weeks without showering, rampant drug abuse, public sex, littering etc. I am no prude but come on.Too bad Rudy is not the mayor, he would not stand for this crap.These people are not even sure what they are really protesting other than cleanliness lol.

Compare them to the tea party, peaceful, clean, protesters with a real message.Sure the OCCASIONAL crackpot gets in with a dumb sign etc but again, compare to these goons in the Occupy movement.

I agree that Cain is driving the establishment right crazy as well, because he is an authentic conservative who won't do the bidding of the GOP heads.

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You may be on the left I like your analysis, one of few lefties on here who are fair and mostly cordial.
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Regardless of what his political views may or may not be, I am certain that soopaman appreciates being slapped with what is clearly intended as a pejorative. Of course, you've always had an odd notion of what cordiality entails.
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I don't think I could do 4 more years of this crap
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Regardless of what his political views may or may not be, I am certain that soopaman appreciates being slapped with what is clearly intended as a pejorative. Of course, you've always had an odd notion of what cordiality entails.
I was not using it as a pejorative and would not consider "lefty" or its plural as one.
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