Is the Tea Party Over?

Gerald · 10-10-11, 10:21 PM

This was supposed to be the Tea Party’s time. The incumbent president the rebels despise so much seemed vulnerable. The Republican establishment was AWOL, leaderless or intimidated. So the angry, God-fearing, government-loathing populist insurgents rushed into the vacuum, fired up the town halls, helped put a halt to any compromising in Congress and basically commandeered the national debate. Then, for much of this year, they dominated the auditions for a presidential challenger. In a spectacle about as deliberative as speed-dating, candidate after candidate tried out for the role of Not Mitt Romney — including, at times, Mitt Romney. We had the Sarah Palin tease, replaced by the short-lived Michele Bachmann infatuation, after which everyone swooned, briefly, for Rick Perry. Herman Cain is having a little fling now, though even voters who like his style don’t think he can win. Rick Santorum, who is in some ways the moralizing social conscience of the Tea Party, and Ron Paul, who plays its geeky libertarian id, have settled into single digits and bit parts as debate foils. Newt Gingrich is the class cutup, blowing raspberries at journalists. To be fair, some of this unedifying scramble can indeed be blamed on the press corps. Special props go to the hyperactive political news sites that crave a fresh narrative every 15 minutes, even if it’s a sitcom like Donald Trump. And a hat tip to Fox News, which has helped trivialize the campaign by offering a platform to one not-ready-for-prime-time Republican semi-celebrity after another. On behalf of journalism, sincerest apologies for wasting so much of your time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/op...me&ref=general

Note: October 9, 2011

August · 10-11-11, 08:16 AM

Quoting the NYT about the Tea Party is like quoting the KKK about Black Americans. Vendor you really need to start improving your sources.

10-11-11, 08:28 AM

Use Fox as a source instead, then it would be like quoting the KKK on white supremacism

JU_88 · 10-11-11, 08:31 AM

Stop worrying about Tea Parties, Communists and terrorists, its all a bloody side show now.
Start worrying about weather or not any of us will have a pot to pee in this time next year, that is quite real.

Gerald · 10-11-11, 10:38 AM

@August!

@Tribesman!

I could use me to the news service I want, at any given moment, and then the viewer, then readers do not like it, is up to each one, and not my responsibility, my responsibility is for posting, and not what you choose to read, you can easily choose another to read, it would be pretty, very easy to post news here that is not even in the media, but then it would be criticism "what is this has never heard of," etc. .. so the "Improvement" is not news "to post something to suit every taste is certainly optimal, but an impossibility with between 60,000 to 65,000 members, select what you want to read, easily!

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 10:47 AM

The tea party is a viable party. They just allow the worse people to hijack it. The halfway quitter Palin, and the loony toon character Bachmann??

Cain fits them to a "t" (Tea?

)

Would go along way to prove to far leftists who want to portray them as anti-negro, rather than anti Obama policies.

I spout alot of seemingly leftist crap here, but see myself more aligned towards TP beliefs. I just despise the spokespeople they choose to headline them, like they are going more for media shock value attention rather than campaigning on thier beliefs.

Aligning themselves to republicans is bad too. Too many Mitts and Texas Rickys... They should emerge to challenge the independant party. 2 party politics is no good. More choices, the harder government would have to work for the voters.

(I still have faith in our system)

mookiemookie · 10-11-11, 10:50 AM

Vote Herman Cain! ""Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself."

That's a campaign slogan that's going to take him real far.

AVGWarhawk · 10-11-11, 10:51 AM

I like Cain.

Task Force · 10-11-11, 10:55 AM

OH NO!!! don't tell me they ran out of tea bags!!!!

Maybe they should become the coffee party.

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Vote Herman Cain! ""Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself."

That's a campaign slogan that's going to take him real far.

And seeing as he is the most viable Republican at this time just shows we are in for 4 more years of apologizing to muslim countries for being attacked, and pandering to hardliners like Boehner. (hence my 2 party system sucks comment)

I would respect him if he used his office like Bush, Clinton and Reagan did before... As a bully pulpit to pull the people on his side despite party affiliation.

August · 10-11-11, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

@August!

@Tribesman!

I could use me to the news service I want, at any given moment, and then the viewer, then readers do not like it, is up to each one, and not my responsibility, my responsibility is for posting, and not what you choose to read, you can easily choose another to read, it would be pretty, very easy to post news here that is not even in the media, but then it would be criticism "what is this has never heard of," etc. .. so the "Improvement" is not news "to post something to suit every taste is certainly optimal, but an impossibility with between 60,000 to 65,000 members, select what you want to read, easily!

Are you telling me i can't recommend that you use less biased sources?

August · 10-11-11, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2

They should emerge to challenge the independant party.

They can't. The Tea Party is only a one issue organization. Government economic responsibility and that's it. Why do you think the Democrats keep trying to define them in other areas? The second the TP start adding planks on social and other issues they will fragment. The Dems know this and will do everything they can to muddy the waters.

Gerald · 10-11-11, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Are you telling me i can't recommend that you use less biased sources?

It is clear that you can express your criticisms on any level, that post bias, I respect this, and have no immigration by either, which would in that case occurred before.

Osmium Steele · 10-11-11, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

@I could use me to the news service I want, at any given moment, and then the viewer, then readers do not like it, is up to each one, and not my responsibility

Yes, but you have yet to post news.

You routinely post from the NYT Opinion page. That is not news.

August · 10-11-11, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

Yes, but you have yet to post news.

You routinely post from the NYT Opinion page. That is not news.

I don't think he understands the difference.

10-10-11, 10:21 PM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Is the Tea Party Over? This was supposed to be the Tea Party’s time. The incumbent president the rebels despise so much seemed vulnerable. The Republican establishment was AWOL, leaderless or intimidated. So the angry, God-fearing, government-loathing populist insurgents rushed into the vacuum, fired up the town halls, helped put a halt to any compromising in Congress and basically commandeered the national debate. Then, for much of this year, they dominated the auditions for a presidential challenger. In a spectacle about as deliberative as speed-dating, candidate after candidate tried out for the role of Not Mitt Romney — including, at times, Mitt Romney. We had the Sarah Palin tease, replaced by the short-lived Michele Bachmann infatuation, after which everyone swooned, briefly, for Rick Perry. Herman Cain is having a little fling now, though even voters who like his style don’t think he can win. Rick Santorum, who is in some ways the moralizing social conscience of the Tea Party, and Ron Paul, who plays its geeky libertarian id, have settled into single digits and bit parts as debate foils. Newt Gingrich is the class cutup, blowing raspberries at journalists. To be fair, some of this unedifying scramble can indeed be blamed on the press corps. Special props go to the hyperactive political news sites that crave a fresh narrative every 15 minutes, even if it’s a sitcom like Donald Trump. And a hat tip to Fox News, which has helped trivialize the campaign by offering a platform to one not-ready-for-prime-time Republican semi-celebrity after another. On behalf of journalism, sincerest apologies for wasting so much of your time. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/op...me&ref=general Note: October 9, 2011 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-11-11, 08:16 AM	#2
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,249 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Quoting the NYT about the Tea Party is like quoting the KKK about Black Americans. Vendor you really need to start improving your sources. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

10-11-11, 10:38 AM	#5
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	@August! @Tribesman! I could use me to the news service I want, at any given moment, and then the viewer, then readers do not like it, is up to each one, and not my responsibility, my responsibility is for posting, and not what you choose to read, you can easily choose another to read, it would be pretty, very easy to post news here that is not even in the media, but then it would be criticism "what is this has never heard of," etc. .. so the "Improvement" is not news "to post something to suit every taste is certainly optimal, but an impossibility with between 60,000 to 65,000 members, select what you want to read, easily! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-11-11, 10:47 AM	#6
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	The tea party is a viable party. They just allow the worse people to hijack it. The halfway quitter Palin, and the loony toon character Bachmann?? Cain fits them to a "t" (Tea?) Would go along way to prove to far leftists who want to portray them as anti-negro, rather than anti Obama policies. I spout alot of seemingly leftist crap here, but see myself more aligned towards TP beliefs. I just despise the spokespeople they choose to headline them, like they are going more for media shock value attention rather than campaigning on thier beliefs. Aligning themselves to republicans is bad too. Too many Mitts and Texas Rickys... They should emerge to challenge the independant party. 2 party politics is no good. More choices, the harder government would have to work for the voters. (I still have faith in our system) __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-11-11, 10:50 AM	#7
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Vote Herman Cain! ""Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself." That's a campaign slogan that's going to take him real far. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

10-11-11, 08:28 AM	#3
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Use Fox as a source instead, then it would be like quoting the KKK on white supremacism

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,816 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Stop worrying about Tea Parties, Communists and terrorists, its all a bloody side show now. Start worrying about weather or not any of us will have a pot to pee in this time next year, that is quite real.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I like Cain. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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