Hundreds of Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested

[CaptainHaplo]

Yea it has all the essentials....

Sex, drugs, and squatters.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...aDUWhBRv9IbaiK

Probably shouldn't mention the lack of sanitation either. After all, most of the protesters there want to "get back to being in harmony with mother earth".....

Its woodstock without the music.

[Sea Demon]

I walked around Occupy Sacramento over the weekend. I couldn't believe the signs being carried by many in this mass of human waste:

"Down with Capitalism - Up with Social Justice"

"Don't tell me to get a job...give me one"

And other such nonsense. The one thing I learned watching these people was that they have no idea how jobs are created, or why they're even possible. Jobs come from great thinking and inventive people with the incentive to carry forth an idea. They come from free markets and private sector CAPITALISM.

I wish these occupy leftist idiots would actually do their homework and understand where they get their iphones, mp3 players, desktop computers, PC and XBox games, and blackberry's they seem to love to have. I say grow up fools, bathe yourselves from the idiocy that is Marxism and really educate yourselves. Support those who create jobs and then by golly..work hard and get one yourself. Of course many of these people will also have to clean themselves up. Seeing what I saw at this event, nobody looked very employable. I can't say I could trust anybody out there with so much as showing up on time to empty a trash can.

[Blood_splat]

Probably shouldn't mention....

I notice you don't mention the singing christians.

Its woodstock without the music.

hey the music is gospel

[JU_88]

Well this thread just seems like its decended in to the usual Right vs Left
BS.
Right now that doesn't matter. I think many of you are missing the big picture of what is actually going on in America and indeed the Western world right now - and what is forcast in the near future. This protest is only the tip of the iceberg.
The real Global financial problems we face dont care if we are left or right, they are gonna kick us in nuts regardless! and very soon!

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I walked around Occupy Sacramento over the weekend. I couldn't believe the signs being carried by many in this mass of human waste:

"Down with Capitalism - Up with Social Justice"

"Don't tell me to get a job...give me one"

And other such nonsense. The one thing I learned watching these people was that they have no idea how jobs are created, or why they're even possible. Jobs come from great thinking and inventive people with the incentive to carry forth an idea. They come from free markets and private sector CAPITALISM.

I wish these occupy leftist idiots would actually do their homework and understand where they get their iphones, mp3 players, desktop computers, PC and XBox games, and blackberry's they seem to love to have. I say grow up fools, bathe yourselves from the idiocy that is Marxism and really educate yourselves. Support those who create jobs and then by golly..work hard and get one yourself. Of course many of these people will also have to clean themselves up. Seeing what I saw at this event, nobody looked very employable. I can't say I could trust anybody out there with so much as showing up on time to empty a trash can.

Yes Capitalsim is nice for us, even for the protesters you speak of, (dispite their complaints) they live like kings compared to most people in the world.
Unfortunately capitalism only provides us with a good standard of living, because it denies it to somebody else.
For captialsm to work it requires a rich minority and poor majority on a global scale - that is simply how it operates.
Free enterprise is great too, it means anyone 'have have go' but on the flip side its also wide open to exploitation, and boy has it been exploited.

So yes, captialism has shaped the world around us and everything we know and love! I enjoy it as much as the next person as elsewhere people starve to death!
You know if we divided the world's current food supply up equally amongst everyone on the planet we would each get the equivillant of one bowl of rice a day? Now just think about that and how much we eat.... Oh and you BETTER be grateful

The current system we have is simply not sustainable, there is no way mankind will be able to carry on like this for another 50 years, let alone 100, that is an undisputed fact, the only question is are we brave enough to admit it, act and make sacrafices? Hell NO! we just cowardly deny it and continue down the same path of self destruction as we consume our way though the earths limited recources, leaving a huge trail of pollution waste and garbage in our wake. An yes Im as guilty as everyone here.

Also bear in mind the worlds population has almost doubled since the 1970s and it continues to snowball! We no longer have wars, famines and fatal deases on the same scale that we have had though out history. As the population grows, so does the anger and resentment.

Whatever happens something is gonna have to give pretty soon. And im not ashamed to admit it, I am quite scared.
I have a young son and I dont think he is going to grow up to enjoy the same security and freedom we have had.

Captialism has treated me well and so it is with alot reluctance, that I must acknowlege that it is unstable, unsustainable and rotten to the core
As for an alternative... I just dont think we have one. Preaching socialism and Communism is all very well, but try talking to someone who has actually LIVED under it.
I agree that too many Pro-Socialists dont seem to have a full understanding of what they are asking for, history has proven that it is very different in practice from what it is on paper.
But likewise Pro-Capitalists are kidding them selves if they think we can keep this system up for much longer. Just about every aspect of the worlds current climate says we can't.

[AVGWarhawk]

Whatever the case, this movement simply has no substance IMO. I watched a interview with a protester here in Baltimore. His answers to why he was here protesting convinced me these protests are more disorganized and without a message today than yesterday.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Whatever the case, this movement simply has no substance IMO. I watched a interview with a protester here in Baltimore. His answers to why he was here protesting convinced me these protests are more disorganized and without a message today than yesterday.

You may or may not be right,
But were you really convinced by one person? or you took one bad example to support what you already believed?
Not saying im pro-protest, It just sounds more like you are convincing yourself from what you just wrote, Im just sayin.....

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by JU_88

You may or may not be right,
But were you really convinced by one person? or you took one bad example to support what you already believed?
Not saying im pro-protest, It just sounds more like you are convincing yourself from what you just wrote, Im just sayin.....

No, this interview only confirmed what I have witnessed since this started. There is no goal. It is not a protest. It's more of a forum with no moderators.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No, this interview only confirmed what I have witnessed since this started. There is no goal. It is not a protest. It's more of a forum with no moderators.

Fair enough, oh and good metaphore - made me chuckle

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Support those who create jobs and then by golly..work hard and get one yourself.

Jobs are created by demand, not by tax breaks to the wealthy.

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Yea it has all the essentials....

Sex, drugs, and squatters.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...aDUWhBRv9IbaiK

Probably shouldn't mention the lack of sanitation either. After all, most of the protesters there want to "get back to being in harmony with mother earth".....

Its woodstock without the music.

Ah that bastion of unbiased truth, the New York Post. Quote the Weekly World News next time - they're better journalists than the Post. The fact that those in power feel threatened enough to use the media to smear these people is a positive sign.

I find it funny that the same people around here who got butthurt when anyone referred to the Tea Party as teabaggers or anything but "a movement of red blooded Americans exercising their constitutional rights of free speech" are the same one to call those who want money out of politics trash or scum. If wanting a fair democracy where the voice of the people holds more sway than money makes you trash and scum, then call me trash and scum.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I find it funny that the same people around here who got butthurt when anyone referred to the Tea Party as teabaggers or anything but "a movement of red blooded Americans exercising their constitutional rights of free speech" are the same one to call those who want money out of politics trash or scum.

Conversely the same people who loved to call the Tea Party "teabaggers", and worse, are now the ones getting butt hurt when their little Student/Union Meeting is not considered a shining beacon of truth, justice and the American way.

When you practice the politics of division you can't then demand unity.

[JU_88]

I swear America seems like this....

LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,
LEFT, RIGHT,

Annnd march off the edge of the cliff because no one was looking ahead!


Why has every single political thought got to conform with right or left? WHY?
seems like its blinding everyone away from common sense.

[August]

Originally Posted by JU_88

...march off the edge of the cliff...

People have been expecting us to do that for over 200 years but we're still here.

[JU_88]

No offence But a 'dead centre' temporary dictatorship just might do you guys the world of good, give you all a chance to calm the f- down?
I think the problem with 'Dead center', is that it wouldnt inspire Americans as it wouldnt be able to demonstrate any real passion or ambition, just objectivity and / or indifference.
Its not macho enough for what American politics has become.
@Dread Knot, you have a media fuelled political bloodsport, because most of your country laps it up like a kitty with a saucer of warm milk.

Im not saying the UK is better or anything, but the line between Right and Left has now become so blurred its barely recognisable. To some extent I think its a good thing, since it forces more people to look carfully at whats on the table in terms of policies (the big picture)- rather than just blindly bowling for the same team as mommy daddy.
On the down side it also creates indifference.... just look at our last election (hung parliment).