Jerry Brown signs 'California Dream Act' into law

mookiemookie · 10-10-11, 03:02 PM

Why they give breaks to non-citizens when we have plenty of citizens who need one is beyond me. Stupid, stupid thinking.

Jimbuna · 10-10-11, 03:19 PM

Loads of votes at election time perhaps?

AVGWarhawk · 10-10-11, 03:52 PM

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Loads of votes at election time perhaps?

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Jimbuna · 10-10-11, 03:56 PM

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Does this make me an 'expert'on US political debates?

nikimcbee · 10-10-11, 04:02 PM

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Does this make me an 'expert'on US political debates?

With >56k posts, you're bound to get one right.

Jimbuna · 10-10-11, 06:04 PM

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With >56k posts, you're bound to get one right.

Bastid

nikimcbee · 10-10-11, 06:15 PM

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Bastid

kraznyi_oktjabr · 10-10-11, 06:21 PM

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Bastid

Jim, where you get those magnificent smileys?

nikimcbee · 10-10-11, 04:01 PM

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Why they give breaks to non-citizens when we have plenty of citizens who need one is beyond me. Stupid, stupid thinking.

OMG, the end is near.

Don't be a racist, hater Mookie. So if we agree on this point, what else is possible to agree on?

vienna · 10-10-11, 04:20 PM

Actually, the law gives no preference to the illegals; it just gives them access to state educational grants. They still have to meet all the requirements of any other legal citizen of California in applying for the grants and being approved for the grants and they must meet the same requirements for acceptance to a state university. I am not totally clear on whether the illegals can only be accepted after other legal citizens have had the chance to be offered entry first or if their applications are just mingled with all the others and judged soley on merit; the descriptions of the law given in the media are unclear and I have not had a chance to read the actual bill...

As a related development, Gov. Brown vetoed another bill presented to him that would have allowed the state university system to use race, ethnicity, gender, etc. in weighing an applicant's admission to a state university. Brown said that although he supports affirmative action, he feels that the separation of powers mandates the matter be settled in the court system and not through backdoor legislation...

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...ce-gender.html

BTW, I do not support "affirmative action" as it applies to university admissions nor do I support the extension of grant privileges to illegal aliens; I just thought I'd add a little bit of clarification on the law and also on how one goal of the illegals was given (the "Dream Act") and one goal was taken was taken away (the veto of backdoor "affirmative action")...

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,718 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Actually, the law gives no preference to the illegals; it just gives them access to state educational grants. They still have to meet all the requirements of any other legal citizen of California in applying for the grants and being approved for the grants and they must meet the same requirements for acceptance to a state university. I am not totally clear on whether the illegals can only be accepted after other legal citizens have had the chance to be offered entry first or if their applications are just mingled with all the others and judged soley on merit; the descriptions of the law given in the media are unclear and I have not had a chance to read the actual bill... As a related development, Gov. Brown vetoed another bill presented to him that would have allowed the state university system to use race, ethnicity, gender, etc. in weighing an applicant's admission to a state university. Brown said that although he supports affirmative action, he feels that the separation of powers mandates the matter be settled in the court system and not through backdoor legislation... http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...ce-gender.html BTW, I do not support "affirmative action" as it applies to university admissions nor do I support the extension of grant privileges to illegal aliens; I just thought I'd add a little bit of clarification on the law and also on how one goal of the illegals was given (the "Dream Act") and one goal was taken was taken away (the veto of backdoor "affirmative action")...