Is Israel Its Own Worst Enemy?

[TLAM Strike]

Quite sure that Israel's Worst Enemy is the Arabs who want to drive them in to the sea and the American/European Leftists & the members of the NYC Dictator's Social Club who want to let them.

[Oberon]

It's a Catch-22 though TLAM, you know what it's like these days, public relations are everything. It's a rod that the west has made for its own back with the whole human rights laws and that, so the laws have to be applied equally and thus there's conflict with Israel.

To be honest though, Israel is big enough and tough enough to let things like this not bother it, so long as the US keeps paying the bills then Israel will be able to hunker down and take whatever PR stunts are thrown at it by its neighbours.

Although I'd be looking with great interest at the Egyptian border now...

[MH]

Originally Posted by Oberon

It's a Catch-22 though TLAM, you know what it's like these days, public relations are everything. It's a rod that the west has made for its own back with the whole human rights laws and that, so the laws have to be applied equally and thus there's conflict with Israel.

To be honest though, Israel is big enough and tough enough to let things like this not bother it, so long as the US keeps paying the bills then Israel will be able to hunker down and take whatever PR stunts are thrown at it by its neighbours.

Although I'd be looking with great interest at the Egyptian border now...

That's the problem to begin with....for you its stunts strategy and exiting news.
For Israelis its life.
Why should we risk all those exiting stunts?
Just for a hope that next time **** happens average world citizen will love Israel a bit more-till a mistaken shell/bomb hits the wrong house(its a established pattern).

Solve Palestinian conflict and it all will go away....right....happy ever after.

The issue is that building in Gilo(for example) had become an issue when it wasn't a few years ago.

Gilo was always an issue, it has become more of an issue as Israel keeps saying FU to its allies while holding out the begging bowl and then kicking them in the balls every time they back them.
So Gilo was less of an issue than other illegal settlements, but since they keep playing silly buggers over carrying on expanding illegal settlements it brings all expansions of illegal settlements up as more of an issue.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Gilo was always an issue, it has become more of an issue as Israel keeps saying FU to its allies while holding out the begging bowl and then kicking them in the balls every time they back them.
So Gilo was less of an issue than other illegal settlements, but since they keep playing silly buggers over carrying on expanding illegal settlements it brings all expansions of illegal settlements up as more of an issue.

As if you knew what you talk about...
Yeah yeah illegal...thanks for your opinion...and Zionism is racism right?
Isn't death penalty legal?

Jerusalem mayor slams Gilo construction critics



Nir Barkat defends plan to build 1,100 housing units in Gilo, claims government motivated by international pressure Tani Goldstein Published: 10.04.11, 17:28

Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat on Tuesday stressed the importance of ongoing construction in the city "as the only solution to the housing crisis."


Last week the Jerusalem Planning and Construction Committee approved the construction of 1,100 in the neighborhood of Gilo. The committee dubbed the decision "a nice gift for Rosh Hashana" as it provides affordable housing. However, the move drew widespread criticism mainly from abroad.

At an Interior Ministry conference, Barkat said: "The Gilo construction critics expect that we discriminate Jews and only allow Arabs to build. We receive complaints on construction in existing neighborhoods like the plan for Gilo. But when I talk to US government officials it appears they are not aware that we approve construction both for Arabs and Jews."

Gilo neighborhood. 'Only Arabs allowed to build?' (Photo: Courtesy of Lowshot)

The mayor added: "We build for Arabs in east Jerusalem, including legalization of unregulated housing. In the neighborhood of Arnona, we recently authorized 1,000 apartments for Jews and 1,500 for Arabs. So what do they want? That we freeze construction for everyone? For Arabs too? And leave the natural growth issue unanswered? Or only ban Jewish construction, in violation of Israeli and international law?"




"If we don't authorize construction, Jews won't build and Arabs won't build without permission. We must keep building because that is the only answer to Jerusalem's housing crisis. The solution is developing existing neighborhoods."

Barkat also criticized the government which he claimed was not approving as much Jerusalem construction as it should. "It's a shame the government does not authorize important projects that should have already been launched. It must be motivated by international pressure, but the victims are the Jerusalem residents."

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by MH

As if you knew what you talk about...
Yeah yeah illegal...thanks for your opinion...and Zionism is racism right?
Isn't death penalty legal?

I think this is the reason that Israel continuously does this. I know this will sound bad, but sometimes it seems as if they use the Holocaust as an excuse to get away with things they otherwise wouldn't. Similarly, they use the excuse, "everyone hates us, we're just fighting for survival, you don't know what it's like".

To be honest I won't be surprised, much less have a shred of empathy if any of Israel's Arab neighbours declares war again..

[MH]

Originally Posted by Krauter

To be honest I won't be surprised, much less have a shred of empathy if any of Israel's Arab neighbours declares war again..

Every one to his own but it would be interesting to know why?
After all Israel went through at least 3 major wars just for being on the map.

As for the Holocaust.
I really don't know what your issue with it.
One thing is sure Jews have every reason to remember it.