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Old 10-03-11, 03:10 PM   #16
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Good for them, it is entering it's 3rd week and the media can't ignore it anymore. It is our right to demand better governance...
...As of now corporations and banks hold too much sway over Americas political system, citizens are systematically ignored by our so called "representatives" in favor of moneyed interest.

More should stand up, I sent 5 pizzas down there yesterday, it's small but I'm sure quite a few were grateful.

Maybe the media will stop calling them dirty hippies like they did to the Vietnam protesters, they are college students, war veterans, blue collar workers who watched thier pensions evaporate. They are PEOPLE standing up for thier rights as human beings.

Edit:On a side note today they are marching to City hall to let Bloomberg (the same owners of Bloomberg news, and Wall street billionaire) know this isn't ending. And look up Anthony Bologna (Tony Boloney) on you tube, and see how a supervisor rushed to mace peaceful protesters.

Bought and paid for by Mayor Bloombergs Billions.
I agree with you man. lots of people look at these protests and say "well who are you to dislike the wealthy, There is nothing wrong with profit" and that may be true, but in my mind there is something wrong with profit which is made unfairly at the expense of others whilst congress is too busy being bribed to do anything about it. Sure, There are winners and losers in business, but that saying has always been in the context of a level playing field, which i feel america is not anymore, due to the level of palm greasing in Washington. The saying "winners and losers" does also in my eyes not really apply in the context of all the predatory banking, loans, and business that is being done these days either, as congress sits idly by, counting campaign contributions and lobby gifts.
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Old 10-03-11, 04:14 PM   #17
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I guess that means you already have yours, and don't care that Wall Street lost what was everyone elses (and still got phat bonuses at the end of the day, thanks to people like me who pay taxes to bail them out, and barely get by).

This Wall street mess affects the world. I'm glad your happy in your hamlet, but a large percentage of us are not happy in our cardboard box.
LOL ya I got mine, riiiight. If you have a case against someone then state it. But I have to tell ya using me for an example only makes you look foolish.

As an American and I am considered by some chart to live at the poverty level but to my friends in Kenya I live like a king because I have running water. I don't own a home, my back yard is where ever I happen to be. I like simplicity and I don't have anything for anyone to take. I don't work to collect crap for shelves and closets. I work to provide for needs with a treat sometimes in between.

For centuries people have worked for the sole reason to obtain things. They live cut throat lives coveting money, collecting crap they don't need and live in mansions that would house dozens of people. But ya know what Soopaman2 that's fine by me because I have absolutely no desire to live like that nor do I expect them to give me what they spent their lives working to obtain.

Now you may think you deserve what they worked for so you can move into a wooden box like them. But as for me, I like what I have and I wouldn't trade for the world.

Now are you protesting for the right to put on a suit and tie to go and work like them? Or are you protesting for the right to get them to give you things because you're to stupid to put on a suit and tie and work like them?
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Old 10-03-11, 04:23 PM   #18
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LOL ya I got mine, riiiight. If you have a case against someone then state it. But I have to tell ya using me for an example only makes you look foolish.

As an American and I am considered by some chart to live at the poverty level but to my friends in Kenya I live like a king because I have running water. I don't own a home, my back yard is where ever I happen to be. I like simplicity and I don't have anything for anyone to take. I don't work to collect crap for shelves and closets. I work to provide for needs with a treat sometimes in between.

For centuries people have worked for the sole reason to obtain things. They live cut throat lives coveting money, collecting crap they don't need and live in mansions that would house dozens of people. But ya know what Soopaman2 that's fine by me because I have absolutely no desire to live like that nor do I expect them to give me whats spent their lives working to obtain.

Now you may think you deserve what they worked for so you can move into a wooden box like them. But as for me I like what I have and I wouldn't trade for the world.
I'm happy with my life, and want nothing I didn't earn, they (protesters) don't either. I think your trying to call me a socialist? Typical right wing method.

I just want my future secured, i want the pension I paid into all my life to be there, and not gambled away by shylocks. Because when they lose it, their feet are not held to the fire, rather they are given bailouts using our taxpayer money that can be put into better things. Like back into SSI that we all pay into but the government keeps giving away to its pork projects and wars.

No money for SSI that Americans pay into, have to privatize it (so wall street can lose it) But plenty to feed the UN monster (that hates us) and to uphold 700 military bases around the world....

Dude enjoy the bliss.

edit: I reread my post and it come across as agressive, not my intention sir. Martin Niemoller (sp) comes to mind in this case.
the quotation:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

They will get to you eventually my friend. But I suppose we can agree to disagree.
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Old 10-03-11, 05:48 PM   #19
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So what, or who are these protestors, what are they protesting, they protest big government but want more government, that doesn't make scense, guess these folks aren't the Tea Party or it would be all over the news. So if these folks aren't the Tea Party then who are they ???????
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Old 10-03-11, 07:39 PM   #20
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Good for them, it is entering it's 3rd week and the media can't ignore it anymore. It is our right to demand better governance.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ***8212; That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ***8212; That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
-Excerpt from the American Declaration of independance.

As of now corporations and banks hold too much sway over Americas political system, citizens are systematically ignored by our so called "representatives" in favor of moneyed interest.

More should stand up, I sent 5 pizzas down there yesterday, it's small but I'm sure quite a few were grateful.

Maybe the media will stop calling them dirty hippies like they did to the Vietnam protesters, they are college students, war veterans, blue collar workers who watched thier pensions evaporate. They are PEOPLE standing up for thier rights as human beings.

Edit:On a side note today they are marching to City hall to let Bloomberg (the same owners of Bloomberg news, and Wall street billionaire) know this isn't ending. And look up Anthony Bologna (Tony Boloney) on you tube, and see how a supervisor rushed to mace peaceful protesters.

Bought and paid for by Mayor Bloombergs Billions.
There is no rights unless it is enforced. There's no law unless it is enforced. There is no state unless it is governed.

Thus the idea of liberty and rights will always be a struggle. A perpetual dynamic struggle of ideas in the people's mind and then in their practical day to day life.

It can be robbed, destroyed, denied or protected and ensured.
It's all up to the people consent whether they want to abdicate those rights and social contracts or they want to demand them to be held up.

In other words, constitution, rule of law, and rights all fall under the category of political ideas. They are intangible and not real. Of course they are the product of enlightened minds but they can be honored only by other enlightened minds as well. And that is a big ifs, generation in and generation out.
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Old 10-03-11, 07:47 PM   #21
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If all these Wall Street protesters look like her, I'm on the next plane.

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If all these Wall Street protesters look like her, I'm on the next plane.

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If all these Wall Street protesters look like her, I'm on the next plane.

She is soooo young, but nice shoulder,
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You been duped by the people you're protesting just by paying into your pension, it just feeds the monster man. Stop paying into pensions quit using a credit card and save your money. Then you'll see Wall Street jump and ask how high on the way up. But like them you want your million too so you'll pay. Because it's what everyone else is doing, because you were told to, because they said you need it to retire. Good luck.
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http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/...l?ref=nyregion
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Where are the Occupy Wall Street protests heading?

As a man known as Mercury puts the finishing touches to his corporate zombie make up, he explains why he's joined the anti-capitalist protests here in the shadow of Wall Street."We are inspired by the Arab Spring. Americans have rights but they're too often apathetic." Welcome to Zuccotti Park, where the leaderless protest is now entering its third week. Sophie is here to protest about the execution of a Georgia man, Troy Davis.Will Estrella believes this is his generation's revolution.And Brian Phillips, a marine turned housing community official, wants to see the Federal Reserve abolished.The protesters aren't unified in their motivations or their demands, but they're tapping into discontent about inequalities in an America still struggling after one recession and fearful about entering a second.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15160953


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If all these Wall Street protesters look like her, I'm on the next plane.

You have a thing for short female police officers?
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You have a thing for short female police officers?
I dunno MB...where exactly is that aforementioned officer looking?
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I dunno MB...where exactly is that aforementioned officer looking?
Same place I was looking....
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Idiots on parade.....nothing more than that.
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