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Old 09-30-11, 07:54 PM   #1
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I think it's about time we start telling the Iranians "That's a nice crucial gasoline refinery you have there, it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it."
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I think it's about time we start telling the Iranians "That's a nice crucial gasoline refinery you have there, it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it."
So you say that, if they could build a carrie they are not allowed to do so, by the american and the europeans

Or did i misunderstand you?

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Old 09-30-11, 08:06 PM   #3
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So you say that, if they could build a carrie they are not allowed to do so, by the american and the europeans

Or did i misunderstand you?

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No, I'm saying it's about time we stop playing softball with a brutal regime that has promised a second holocaust and is obviously going for nuclear weapons with a crackpot in charge whose stated goal has been to bring about the apocalypse.
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Old 09-30-11, 08:23 PM   #4
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No, I'm saying it's about time we stop playing softball with a brutal regime that has promised a second holocaust and is obviously going for nuclear weapons with a crackpot in charge whose stated goal has been to bring about the apocalypse.
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No, I'm saying it's about time we stop playing softball with a brutal regime that has promised a second holocaust and is obviously going for nuclear weapons with a crackpot in charge whose stated goal has been to bring about the apocalypse.
I truly agree with you.

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Old 10-01-11, 06:05 AM   #6
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No, I'm saying it's about time we stop playing softball with a brutal regime that has promised a second holocaust and is obviously going for nuclear weapons with a crackpot in charge whose stated goal has been to bring about the apocalypse.
Here-Here!
Personally, I think that iran Could build a carrier, however, I highly doubt their navy is capable of A. deploying it effectively and B. maintaining it, after all, Carriers are very fragile bits of kit, which require dry-docking, and general TLC. And if the state of the current iranian fleet is anything to go by, thats not gona happen.
Were also forgetting that mister crack-pot also has to buy planes for the damn thing, otherwise its one great big moving target.
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Personally, I think that iran Could build a carrier, however, I highly doubt their navy is capable of A. deploying it effectively and B. maintaining it, after all, Carriers are very fragile bits of kit, which require dry-docking, and general TLC. And if the state of the current iranian fleet is anything to go by, thats not gona happen.
Were also forgetting that mister crack-pot also has to buy planes for the damn thing, otherwise its one great big moving target.
It's going to be a giant moving target *anyway.* The Iranians' ASW capability is more or less nonexistent. Judging by the last time they started something with the US Navy, their air defense capabilities are nonexistent, and they don't have enough surface combatants to even put together a viable CVBG.
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Old 10-01-11, 02:57 PM   #8
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It's going to be a giant moving target *anyway.* The Iranians' ASW capability is more or less nonexistent. Judging by the last time they started something with the US Navy, their air defense capabilities are nonexistent, and they don't have enough surface combatants to even put together a viable CVBG.
I most honorably disagree. For example their Jamaran class "destroyers" carry 4 SM-1 copies, dual-purpose 76 mm gun, Bofors 40 mm copy and two 20 mm Oerlikons. That is truly an area air defence capability - rivals even Britons Type 45.


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I most honorably disagree. For example their Jamaran class "destroyers" carry 4 SM-1 copies, dual-purpose 76 mm gun, Bofors 40 mm copy and two 20 mm Oerlikons. That is truly an area air defence capability - rivals even Britons Type 45.


And how many Jamarans do they have?

Besides, Jamarans are basically just a minor upgrade of the Alvand class FFs to carry SM-1s, and we know how effective the Alvand class is from Op. Praying Mantis...
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Old 10-01-11, 05:08 PM   #10
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I most honorably disagree. For example their Jamaran class "destroyers" carry 4 SM-1 copies, dual-purpose 76 mm gun, Bofors 40 mm copy and two 20 mm Oerlikons. That is truly an area air defence capability - rivals even Britons Type 45.


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