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Old 09-30-11, 06:05 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr View Post
My understanding is that previous Jewish state was defeated and conquered by Roman Republic in 63 BC. Its successor Roman Empire made its best to destroy anything left of Judea in 1st and 2nd centuries anno domini.

Depending how you want to count there wasn't Jewish state in around 1800-2000 years (rounded numbers), next being modern Israel from 1948. After the Roman time it have been just part of various empires or countries.

Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere (I'm not perfect) and tell me how Jewish people have more valid claim to Palestine (one name among others) than people now referred to as Palestinians?
Here we go again....
There wasn't Jewish state for 2000 years blah blah blah....Still there are Jewish people.
From my perspective there is no difference between 2000 years and 20 years
Jews had been hunted all over Europe including modern "civilised" history.
Return to land of Israel was always Jewish dream which seriously began with mostly secular Zionist movement.

Do palestinians deserve their own state?
Facts on the ground are as such that Jews and Palestinians need to compromise.
Question is what is the nature of compromise and if compromise will end the conflict.
Abu mazen talk about settlements because it sounds right for his cause.
At the same time PA official put out statement that Palestinian state must be Jews free while they argue about returning millions of Palestinian refugees into Israel.
Thing is that when you ask politically involved Palestinian about peace process he will tell you that two state solution is just a temporary step toward whole Palestine.
Creating Palestinian state just to win some sympathy of a Fin or Swed is the easy part question is if this will end the conflict.
Question is what will happen when Abu Mazen is gone and West bank will become terrorist habitat for continuation of struggle against Zionist.
Will UN back Israelis killing women and children when missiles from west bank fall on Tel Aviv?
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