Military buildup

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by magicstix

If nukes start flying a submarine anywhere in the vicinity will be dead as well, so this is a moot point.

The question isn't who would win in a scrap-up, as that's very much an open question based on individual crew skills and environmental factors.

The real point I'm making, is that you can't win a war with submarines alone. They are not power projectors. A CV battlegroup allows one to put real pressure on the enemy and allows one to actually dismantle their war making capability. Submarines at best can lob a few cruise missiles and maybe insert a specops team.

Unfortunately, it is unlikely you can win a war only with subs. However, if a submarine can sneak into a CVBG, and get off a couple missles and takes the CV (or CVs), guess what happens.
You lose an ungodly expensive boat with ungodly expensive equipment onboard along with ~2000 valuable seamen. That, and the whole point of the battlegroup is lost, thereby making that force now incapable of its most likely important mission.


And,a tac nuke isnt as ranged as a regular thermonuclear bomb, obviously, and therefore a submarine about a mile and a half away under 1000 feet of water could easily survive a tac nuke.

Not to mention how it could launch its payload against your docks, shipyards, and the civilian populace. can you win a war with only subs? its possible. A CVBG to help protect your landing ships from ASM missiles and aircraft would be great. but a war solely at sea can be won by submarines