Texas drops special last meal for death row inmates - Page 2

Platapus · 09-23-11, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Diopos

How about automatically condemning the judge and jurors to death if it is ever discovered that they sent an innocent man to execution?

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No but I do think that witnesses that are proved wrong should, in some cases, be prosecuted for perjury.

Castout · 09-24-11, 06:24 AM

I disagree. They should not drop special last meal for death row inmates.

They should too provide at least an hour time for him to spend with whoever people he chooses(who are willing to come) in a room specially for that.

Of course it will not be completely private so no sex or such things but the guards should be outside the room so they can talk whatever they want.

The thing is death row inmates are already condemned to die before his time for taking the life of another person. If the state basically executes him without showing grace what would be the difference between his execution and his act of murder. Where is the moral high ground thus the moral authority? Let them die with somewhat peace of mind so that even though the state cannot forgive him, he can forgive himself and everyone else.

Jimbuna · 09-24-11, 07:08 AM

An interesting topic and one that would split most populations in agreement or otherwise.

I'd be in favour of the death penalty only where there is 100% conclusive proof of wrondoing such as film or DNA or multiple witnesses etc.

As for the last meal point...I doubt I'd have the stomach or appetite if I knew I was soon to be executed.

JU_88 · 09-24-11, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'd be in favour of the death penalty only where there is 100% conclusive proof of wrondoing such as film or DNA or multiple witnesses .

Yeah of if someone has been convicted on multiple occasions of murder, violent crime etc, you dont wrongfully convict someone 2 or 3 times in a row.

Skybird · 09-24-11, 09:28 AM

Originally, the last meal had nothing to do with doing the subject a last favour. When prisoners were led to the excution place and the guards got them out of the cell, they often revolted and fought, or they started a rebellion in their cell the last night before they knew they would be killed.

So they decided it was easier to stuff them like geese the day before the day, and they really got everything they wanted and that they could eat and drink - when they were filled up, maybe even were drunk, their digestion set in and inevitably made them tired, a bit more peacefully, a bit more silent during the last night, and more easier to handle on their last walk.

No joke, but the simple truth behind the tradition. If following that tradition by the original intention, you nowadays would simply sedate the people 24 hours before.

Alex · 09-24-11, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Whether a subject sentenced to death gets a last meal or not, is the most unimportant of all questions. Much more important is why so many people in some countries accept to murder so many later proven innocents just in order to not rethink their desire for revenge.

Nail on the head once again.

09-25-11, 01:36 PM

If I were about to hang a meal would be the last thing on my mind.

09-24-11, 06:24 AM	#17
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	I disagree. They should not drop special last meal for death row inmates. They should too provide at least an hour time for him to spend with whoever people he chooses(who are willing to come) in a room specially for that. Of course it will not be completely private so no sex or such things but the guards should be outside the room so they can talk whatever they want. The thing is death row inmates are already condemned to die before his time for taking the life of another person. If the state basically executes him without showing grace what would be the difference between his execution and his act of murder. Where is the moral high ground thus the moral authority? Let them die with somewhat peace of mind so that even though the state cannot forgive him, he can forgive himself and everyone else. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

09-24-11, 07:08 AM	#18
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	An interesting topic and one that would split most populations in agreement or otherwise. I'd be in favour of the death penalty only where there is 100% conclusive proof of wrondoing such as film or DNA or multiple witnesses etc. As for the last meal point...I doubt I'd have the stomach or appetite if I knew I was soon to be executed. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-24-11, 09:28 AM	#20
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,742 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Originally, the last meal had nothing to do with doing the subject a last favour. When prisoners were led to the excution place and the guards got them out of the cell, they often revolted and fought, or they started a rebellion in their cell the last night before they knew they would be killed. So they decided it was easier to stuff them like geese the day before the day, and they really got everything they wanted and that they could eat and drink - when they were filled up, maybe even were drunk, their digestion set in and inevitably made them tired, a bit more peacefully, a bit more silent during the last night, and more easier to handle on their last walk. No joke, but the simple truth behind the tradition. If following that tradition by the original intention, you nowadays would simply sedate the people 24 hours before. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-25-11, 01:36 PM	#22
sidslotm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If I were about to hang a meal would be the last thing on my mind.