A movie question

[nikimcbee]

GaG is the perfect movie to watch at home on DVD, because you can skip through the boring parts. Believe it or not, I saw GaG twice in the theaters.

Hands down, the worst scene in GaG, was the Confederate "USO" show. Its the scene with Turner in it, so that scene will not be edited out..
I did like the Battle of Chansellorsville though. I need to rent it again and watch it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I did like the Battle of Chansellorsville though. I need to rent it again and watch it.

I searched for the "Battel of Chans.." and I found this



I was trying to see if there was a movie with that name. then I saw it was from one of those two C.W movies

Markus

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I searched for the "Battel of Chans.." and I found this



I was trying to see if there was a movie with that name. then I saw it was from one of those two C.W movies

Markus

My bad, The Battle of Chancellorsville part of GaG, not a seperate movie.

On a side note, GaG was a very friendly portrayal of Jackson. He was one weird dude. (hyper-religious)

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

My bad, The Battle of Chancellorsville part of GaG, not a seperate movie.

On a side note, GaG was a very friendly portrayal of Jackson. He was one weird dude. (hyper-religious)

Lets stay in this CW-war and discuss their generals.

I say that some of the generals from the Confederacy, was somehow better that their opposite, on the other side.


Markus

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Lets stay in this CW-war and discuss their generals.

I say that some of the generals from the Confederacy, was somehow better that their opposite, on the other side.


Markus

You are absolutely correct. Early to mid war, the Southern generals in the Eastern Theater were way better.

[nikimcbee]

When I get off work, I can post more info. (give me an hour or so, and I'll be home)

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

When I get off work, I can post more info. (give me an hour or so, and I'll be home)

Take your time, no need to stress.

Markus

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

You are absolutely correct. Early to mid war, the Southern generals in the Eastern Theater were way better.

Initiating participation in American Civil War discussion No. 3377:

I would, with the exception of Sherman, say that the Southern generals were superior to their Northern counterparts even in the later war. This includes U. S. Grant as well. What seperated Grant from earlier commanders of the Army of the Potomac was his ability to actually use his army in a basically coherent manner, which was all that was really necessary to win that war.

The term 'domination' or 'dominating' is misleading. The Southern commanders were winning the individual battles handily. I regard R. E. Lee as one of the greatest military leaders in history. However, it should be noted that the Confederacy was almost constantly on the defensive during the course of the war with the exception of the the Gettysburg campaign, which ended disasterously for the South. While the defeat of armies twice it's own size and the humiliation of numerous Union commanders was no doubt a clear demonstration of superiority in command at the tactical level, I would not label the Confederacy's strategic performance as one of dominance.

[nikimcbee]

It would have been interesting to see the outcome, if the Southern Generals in the Western Theater had been better leaders during the early War (up through Vicksburg). If they had decisive victories in the West, the Feds may have given up. Gettysburg and Vicksburg ended that. But the South's economic situation may have negeted their early wins. They couldn't afford a war of attrition.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Lets stay in this CW-war and discuss their generals.

I say that some of the generals from the Confederacy, was somehow better that their opposite, on the other side.


Markus

Cavalry generals in particular. Men like Jeb Stuart, Wade Hampton and Nathan Forrest. Was an area the Union never quite caught up in although as the war dragged on the importance of cavalry began to diminish.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Cavalry generals in particular. Men like Jeb Stuart, Wade Hampton and Nathan Forrest. Was an area the Union never quite caught up in although as the war dragged on the importance of cavalry began to diminish.

The dashing John Pelham, Stuart's Horse Artillery.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

The dashing John Pelham, Stuart's Horse Artillery.

Making life miserable for the Army of the Potomac at Fredericksburg with enfilade fire. Although Gen. Burnside gets most of the credit for misery there.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Jeb Stuart

Got his hat handed to him at Gettysburg, by...George Armstrong Custer.

And don't forget John Buford's contribution to the opening stages of that battle, holding Reynolds' I Corp to the ground of his choosing and creating the situation that led to the Union victory in that battle.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Got his hat handed to him at Gettysburg, by...George Armstrong Custer.

And don't forget John Buford's contribution to the opening stages of that battle, holding Reynolds' I Corp to the ground of his choosing and creating the situation that led to the Union victory in that battle.

Moral of the story is: never debate the Civil War with Sailor Steve... he was there...

[Osmium Steele]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And don't forget John Buford's contribution to the opening stages of that battle, holding Reynolds' I Corp to the ground of his choosing and creating the situation that led to the Union victory in that battle.

Just a nit to pick.

Buford held the ground, waiting for for Gen. Reynolds I Corps against confederate Gen. Heth.