Pack Ice, MIZ and the sonar model

Sub Sailor · 12-04-05, 12:56 AM

I have made three trips North back in the 60s and it was noisy all the time. Dam ice grinds and all kind of stuff, I don't know how the Sonar guys put up with it.
Also you have to watch for the ice heaves that will push some the ice down, they said it because other ice rides up over it. It can be really hard to find the "polynaya" (I think it at least close in spelling)
The scientist that were with us say it is never still always drifting around, I am still not sure how the sonar people find another sub under there. On the trips we made we never encountered any at least that we knew about.
Never going to make it as a tourist attraction that's for sure.
Supposedly the Russians were or are really good at under ice operation and we believed they could launch missiles from up North. I don't know bcause the times we surfaced there was alway ice all over the decks where missles tubes would be. Most of the time just the sail would get through. Anyway we never had to find out.
There is a young man on the site who really knows about the ice, wrote a great treaties on it, recommend you read it.

Have a good one,

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

12-04-05, 12:56 AM	#7
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Noisy I have made three trips North back in the 60s and it was noisy all the time. Dam ice grinds and all kind of stuff, I don't know how the Sonar guys put up with it. Also you have to watch for the ice heaves that will push some the ice down, they said it because other ice rides up over it. It can be really hard to find the "polynaya" (I think it at least close in spelling) The scientist that were with us say it is never still always drifting around, I am still not sure how the sonar people find another sub under there. On the trips we made we never encountered any at least that we knew about. Never going to make it as a tourist attraction that's for sure. Supposedly the Russians were or are really good at under ice operation and we believed they could launch missiles from up North. I don't know bcause the times we surfaced there was alway ice all over the decks where missles tubes would be. Most of the time just the sail would get through. Anyway we never had to find out. There is a young man on the site who really knows about the ice, wrote a great treaties on it, recommend you read it. Have a good one, Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)