[REL] Multiple UIs for SH5 with TDC - Page 525

Faamecanic · 09-10-11, 08:16 AM

Question on Crash dives...

I order a crash dive and it takes 20 seconds for my LI to call "Extreme Speed Ahead (I hate this btw, what were the devs thinking), CRASH DIVE".

Is this a stock SH5 behavior (with only 1 point in Nav dive ability), TDW UI behavior, or a result of OHII or Stoiamn's pitch and roll mod?

Im loving these mods... really brought some value to SH5!!! Thanks for your hard work all!

mia389 · 09-10-11, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Question on Crash dives...

I order a crash dive and it takes 20 seconds for my LI to call "Extreme Speed Ahead (I hate this btw, what were the devs thinking), CRASH DIVE".

Is this a stock SH5 behavior (with only 1 point in Nav dive ability), TDW UI behavior, or a result of OHII or Stoiamn's pitch and roll mod?

Im loving these mods... really brought some value to SH5!!! Thanks for your hard work all!

Go here
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS\NewUIs_TDC_6_8_0_ByTheDarkWraith\data\Scrip ts\Menu

Open TheDarkWraithUserOptions.py

Find this line in the file

# time interval to wait before giving the crash dive command (simulates crew clearing the topside deck) (this value is in seconds - i.e. 5.5 would be 5 and a half seconds). If submerged then there is no delay
TeleportOnCrashDiveWaitTime = 5

Change number in yellow. Not sure what it was stock but I have changed mine to 5.

TheDarkWraith · 09-10-11, 11:09 AM

Trevally made a good point that the sonarman's estimating contact distance is way too precise with the new dll. I updated the dll so that the contact distance reported back is a multiple of 50m (i.e. 9050m, 8000m, 3450m, etc.). Should we make this a multiple of 100m (or larger) instead?

ETsd4 · 09-10-11, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I updated the dll so that the contact distance reported back is a multiple of 50m (i.e. 9050m, 8000m, 3450m, etc.). Should we make this a multiple of 100m (or larger) instead?

Maybe a dynamic step width like this ... or something like this

S = rounded (sqrt(R))

S = step width in meters
R = true range to object in meters

Results...

Code:

        Distance        Steps
.......................................
   100m  -     600m     10m
   700m  -    2499m     50m
  2500m  -   22499m    100m

Example:
R = 4557m
sonarman "sees" object on the radar at = 4426m
S = 68m, rounded to 100m
sonarman reports = "object distance at 4 4 0 0 meters"

Edit: This formular does not offer truly "good values". Especially the rounded-function has some probs

TheDarkWraith · 09-10-11, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETsd4

Maybe a dynamic step width like this ... or something like this

S = rounded (sqrt(R))

S = step width in meters
R = true range to object in meters

Results...

Code:

        Distance        Steps
.......................................
   100m  -     600m     10m
   700m  -    2499m     50m
  2500m  -   22499m    100m

Example:
R = 4557m
sonarman "hears" object at = 4426m
S = 68m, rounded to 100m
sonarman reports = "object distance at 4 4 0 0 meters"

I like this

This makes the error based more on range.

Some good news for those looking for a GUI for editing the options file: Finally got the dynamic part of it working and now I'm just having to make some changes to the options file. I hope to have an alpha version for testing here soon

Faamecanic · 09-10-11, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mia389

Go here
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS\NewUIs_TDC_6_8_0_ByTheDarkWraith\data\Scrip ts\Menu

Open TheDarkWraithUserOptions.py

Find this line in the file

# time interval to wait before giving the crash dive command (simulates crew clearing the topside deck) (this value is in seconds - i.e. 5.5 would be 5 and a half seconds). If submerged then there is no delay
TeleportOnCrashDiveWaitTime = 5

Change number in yellow. Not sure what it was stock but I have changed mine to 5.

Thanks Mia

I think I will keep it being as it is somewhat realistic. Can I change this setting from the .py file in the game directory? (so I dont have to uninstall and reinstall all my mods?)

Now I need to work on those crash dive drills ...maybe once Bernard gets his bottom moving I can muck around that .py file and change it

THE_MASK · 09-10-11, 10:21 PM

Uninstalling mods is not a problem . With the mod enabler click on tasks . Click on save mod profile . Unenable all or left click and shift to group and uninstall . Click on load mod profile to let the mod enable auto arrange the mods again .

Faamecanic · 09-10-11, 10:31 PM

Neat feature...thanks Sober!

I got daring and just modded the .py in my SH5 data directory.... game seemed to be ok, hope I didnt hose anything up.

I guess worse case if I did, I could just unload everything and reload (with my new Mod profile)

TheDarkWraith · 09-10-11, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

I got daring and just modded the .py in my SH5 data directory.... game seemed to be ok, hope I didnt hose anything up.

I guess worse case if I did, I could just unload everything and reload (with my new Mod profile)

Pretty soon editing/viewing the options file will be a snap

It's dynamically generated from the entries in the options file.

There are tabs across the top that refer to the sections in the options file (those were previously defined by ############ xxxxx ########## in the options file). Clicking a tab will show the options available for that section.

You double click on the value under each entry to edit it. If I double clicked the 7.5 in the above screenshot another window appears where I can change the value.
For hotkeys you double click the 'HotKey' text to display another window to edit the hotkey values.

I've included a 'Default Value' and 'HotKey default values' so you can see what the as-designed values were from moi.

You can also see entries of "Min" and/or "Max". They are just quick ways of seeing what the min and/or max values are for that option (if they are defined).

As you can see I've only updated the UI, TDC, and Dials sections of the options file currently.

Will be available in v6.8.0.

Faamecanic · 09-10-11, 10:53 PM

Wow..talk about flexibility to really do wierd schtuff with your files...lol.

Awesome stuff...glad I came back to SH5 after taking a year or so off from it. Things really looking up!

Trevally. · 09-11-11, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETsd4

Maybe a dynamic step width like this ... or something like this

S = rounded (sqrt(R))

S = step width in meters
R = true range to object in meters

Results...

Code:

        Distance        Steps
.......................................
   100m  -     600m     10m
   700m  -    2499m     50m
  2500m  -   22499m    100m

Example:
R = 4557m
sonarman "sees" object on the radar at = 4426m
S = 68m, rounded to 100m
sonarman reports = "object distance at 4 4 0 0 meters"

Edit: This formular does not offer truly "good values". Especially the rounded-function has some probs

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I like this

This makes the error based more on range.

Yes - this sounds the best way to go

I used hydro only for an attack. I had to take many range reading to work out the speed and aob of the target. It was very rewarding when 3 out of the four torps fired hit

I did find one stage tricky - when you set target bearing with the TDC dial - it is hard to see and get right.
The other dials are ok

\would it be possible to have the bearing dial zoom just like the compass

This would make setting the target bearing much more precise

Silent Steel · 09-11-11, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

\would it be possible to have the bearing dial zoom just like the compass

This would make setting the target bearing much more precise

Agree!

TheDarkWraith · 09-11-11, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

I did find one stage tricky - when you set target bearing with the TDC dial - it is hard to see and get right.
The other dials are ok

\would it be possible to have the bearing dial zoom just like the compass

This would make setting the target bearing much more precise

It's on my list of things to do and I'm making myself not do anything else until I finish the GUI for the options editer/viewer

Alex · 09-11-11, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Trevally made a good point that the sonarman's estimating contact distance is way too precise with the new dll. I updated the dll so that the contact distance reported back is a multiple of 50m (i.e. 9050m, 8000m, 3450m, etc.). Should we make this a multiple of 100m (or larger) instead?

The speed of sound in meter per second being approximately of 1500, making it a multiple either of 500 or 1000 would be fine already. In my humble opinion.

mia389 · 09-11-11, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Uninstalling mods is not a problem . With the mod enabler click on tasks . Click on save mod profile . Unenable all or left click and shift to group and uninstall . Click on load mod profile to let the mod enable auto arrange the mods again .

Sober!!!

I had no idea you could do that. I would disable them all together then add them one by one everytime. When testing this was giving me a headache. Will be much faster now in future. Big thanks buddy

09-10-11, 10:21 PM	#7867
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Uninstalling mods is not a problem . With the mod enabler click on tasks . Click on save mod profile . Unenable all or left click and shift to group and uninstall . Click on load mod profile to let the mod enable auto arrange the mods again . Last edited by THE_MASK; 09-10-11 at 10:32 PM.

09-10-11, 08:16 AM	#7861
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Question on Crash dives... I order a crash dive and it takes 20 seconds for my LI to call "Extreme Speed Ahead (I hate this btw, what were the devs thinking), CRASH DIVE". Is this a stock SH5 behavior (with only 1 point in Nav dive ability), TDW UI behavior, or a result of OHII or Stoiamn's pitch and roll mod? Im loving these mods... really brought some value to SH5!!! Thanks for your hard work all!

09-10-11, 11:09 AM	#7863
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Trevally made a good point that the sonarman's estimating contact distance is way too precise with the new dll. I updated the dll so that the contact distance reported back is a multiple of 50m (i.e. 9050m, 8000m, 3450m, etc.). Should we make this a multiple of 100m (or larger) instead?

09-10-11, 10:31 PM	#7868
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Neat feature...thanks Sober! I got daring and just modded the .py in my SH5 data directory.... game seemed to be ok, hope I didnt hose anything up. I guess worse case if I did, I could just unload everything and reload (with my new Mod profile)

09-10-11, 10:53 PM	#7870
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Wow..talk about flexibility to really do wierd schtuff with your files...lol. Awesome stuff...glad I came back to SH5 after taking a year or so off from it. Things really looking up!