History just ate abit of my game Interest.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Catfish

" ... In any army of mankind, from Sumer to Rome, Hitler's SS and US marines, the very first professional action of any drill sergeant is to break a man and make him lose his dignity, to then build him up from the rubble, as an all-obeying killing machine, without the luxury of thinking himself.

The "better" a soldier is, militarily, the less hindrance is left to act like a human being. Because no one would kill someone else without feeling hate, having an at least temporarily fade-out for humanity, or sheer greed. Sometimes this can be also achieved byshizophrenia, by using drugs, or by this warm fuzzy feeling that the of killing of others is good or necessary for your country (implanted patriotism and chauvinism).
Franky, if all people would just say no to killing and would not have been "prepared" in this special way, wars would become impossible. ..."


Regarding killing to be effective, this is not regarded as true today. A lot of wounded men, certainly having lost the ability to fight, are much more a hindrance for the rest of the fighting soldiers, than a dead man. As well the impact at home (hospital, stories, criticism) has also become a major factor. Not pretty, just modern warfare.

Sorry but it is Bull****.
You can lose your humanity in prolonged warfare but still its very much dependent on values you had been grown on and personal character.
Still some armies/counties follow ethical rules more than others when training soldiers.

[Jimbuna]

The British army for one....learning to obey orders and discipline but that is about it.

[Task Force]

Personally ive always believed that in war it is either them or you, and if you can keep them from fighting by destroying them (in this case shoot them down) you should do it, as it causes less suffering and trouble for your men/people in the long run. (also helps secure dominance in the war).

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Task Force

Personally ive always believed that in war it is either them or you, and if you can keep them from fighting by destroying them (in this case shoot them down) you should do it, as it causes less suffering and trouble for your men/people in the long run. (also helps secure dominance in the war).

Indeed, the primary aim of war is to disarm the enemy, that is achieved by destroying their armed forces, occupying their land, and forcing their government to concede to terms. To fail at any one of these three points is the prolong the conflict for both sides.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by MH

Sorry but it is Bull****

Rules, please. We just had a huge argument about this.