Waiting for Obama's magic

[Oberon]

Countdown to Yubba begins here.

[AVGWarhawk]

In before the close!

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Countdown to Yubba begins here.

I fail to see how anyone can expect the president or congress to wave a magic wand and create jobs. Jobs are created by consumer demand. That's it and that's all. Not lower taxes on business, not the broken window fallacy of public works projects. Both sides are retarded at economics and are wasting time and money with these stupid proposals.

[Gerald]

Obama's destiny speech,

[Gargamel]

Well, According to Romney, it's simple, we just need a job machine to create jobs.

[mookiemookie]

[Gerald]

^

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's simply classic Mark

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I fail to see how anyone can expect the president or congress to wave a magic wand and create jobs. Jobs are created by consumer demand. That's it and that's all. Not lower taxes on business, not the broken window fallacy of public works projects. Both sides are retarded at economics and are wasting time and money with these stupid proposals.

Therefore the speech should be in a tone that generates consumer confidence. Feel good, etc. It worked for his election. I believe infrastructure needs to be addressed and will generate jobs in the construction industry. This in turn generates business for manufacturers of materials required to repair bridges and roads, etc. Fed money is already set aside for road repair for the states. I don't think the government can go much beyond this for job creation. I don't believe this is a fallacy. However, the fallacy lies in the years it will take for study and contract bidding. Let's face it, BRAC started in 2006. Only this year have actual BRAC closing and moving of bases has occurred. The government is just slow in many respects.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Therefore the speech should be in a tone that generates consumer confidence. Feel good, etc. It worked for his election. I believe infrastructure needs to be addressed and will generate jobs in the construction industry. This in turn generates business for manufacturers of materials required to repair bridges and roads, etc. Fed money is already set aside for road repair for the states. I don't think the government can go much beyond this for job creation. I don't believe this is a fallacy. However, the fallacy lies in the years it will take for study and contract bidding. Let's face it, BRAC started in 2006. Only this year have actual BRAC closing and moving of bases has occurred. The government is just slow in many respects.

Basic infrastructure spending is fine and good, and with our crumbling roads and bridges and water systems, probably very sorely needed. But the fallacy of the broken window states that if I break a window, it's good because that means the window repairman is going to get work he wouldn't have gotten otherwise and economic activity has been created. It's a fallacy because the money used to pay the window repairman is being diverted from other more productive uses by the window owner, so nothing has truly been created. Spending taxpayer money to create public works projects for the sake of creating jobs and nothing else is a bad idea, and one that the Democrats seem to cling to.

[Gerald]

Wizard of Oz, will soon close to your TV...

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Basic infrastructure spending is fine and good, and with our crumbling roads and bridges and water systems, probably very sorely needed. But the fallacy of the broken window states that if I break a window, it's good because that means the window repairman is going to get work he wouldn't have gotten otherwise and economic activity has been created. It's a fallacy because the money used to pay the window repairman is being diverted from other more productive uses by the window owner, so nothing has truly been created. Spending taxpayer money to create public works projects for the sake of creating jobs and nothing else is a bad idea, and one that the Democrats seem to cling to.

No one is creating public works projects. The problem of crumbling roads and bridges created themselves! There is no fallacy here. No one broke a window. The window is crumbling away on it's own. It can't go on being ignored. I think Obama is smart here in addressing the issues of infrastructure that is a problem in all states. In addressing the problem jobs will be created. In short, the tax payer flips the bill for infrastructure anyway. Roads and bridges are not getting repaired by themselves. These problems need to be addressed. Instead of blowing billions in other countries it is time to funnel the money into the US infrastructure. I'm all for this if Obama is looking to repair infrastructure.

I'm sure Obama will offer a nice speech that paints a Rosey picture.
Then Congress will ignore it all and carry on as normal.

Nothing will happen and we all go on as usual.

Even IF some kind of massive Construction thing is started?
Only the big Companies stand a chance of getting the contracts.
The Little Guys will be cut down faster then they are being cut down now.

So where's the Meat?
You have to have a big wallet now to know the answer.

[TLAM Strike]

Obama's magic? Hmmm like witchcraft and wizardry? I guess being a witch is the one thing Obama hasn't be accused of being...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I fail to see how anyone can expect the president or congress to wave a magic wand and create jobs. Jobs are created by consumer demand. That's it and that's all. Not lower

But I just read that the President is demanding that the GOP stop standing in the way and let Congress do exactly that. So apparently he expects it.