No clergy at 9/11=Terrorist Victory

[MH]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Every time the TSA puts someone through a pornoscanner in an airport, the terrorists have won. Every time some two bit cop uses the phrase "in a post 9/11 world" to justify their power grabs, the terrorists have won. Every time a school kid is crammed into a classroom with 50 other kids because budget cuts have led to teacher layoffs, the terrorists have won.

every time something blows up and people are killed terrorism has won because terrorism has not won.

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Yes - thats Richard Land, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. The claim that this is only about the Xtian faith is thus disproven. Of course, some won't accept the facts, because they don't fit their hatred for people of faith.

Aside from the christian weighting (catholic & protestant) in that, there are huge problems with this. First off, exactly which sect of protestantism would it be (there are piles of variations, many are quite hostile to each other)? Also I am sure there are people who died in the attack who were not of a Judeo-Christian faith... what about them? Should we not include every possible faith then? If so then things turn into a real sideshow circus (have fun with all the different Hindi sects).

What about those who do not have a faith? They died there too, why should their grave be turned into shrine about something they did not believe in?

Frankly I think the fairest choice of all is to keep religion out of this. If individual churches and other places of worship wish to do something, let them as that is the place to do it, but I don't think it should be a part of official commemorations (I am not very much in favor of the whole thing to begin with).

and claim this is all about "fundy" xtianity, note the following

So you have an evangelical biblical literalist sounds pretty fundy.
Hey isn't he from the same grouping as that other Xtian in the article, the one that says terrorism is about poofs, and that other one who says charlies angels is the work of the devil(he might have a point there),
hey what flavour are the fundy nuts in the article that claim the media is anti christian because it is run by the jews?

The claim that this is only about the Xtian faith is thus disproven.

What was claimed what was disproven? nothing

Of course, some won't accept the facts

facts????????

because they don't fit their hatred for people of faith.

errrr...if the commentary is supposedly only about christians how does that match to the people of faith claim?

a "Catholic priest, Protestant minister, rabbi and imam."

A guy walked into a bar......
But hey lets look at the issue, a catholic...what sort? a protestant....wow big category which one?....a rabbi ...any flavour in particular ? an iman....so many sects to choose from?
Damn that including religion gets complicated for all the people of different faith.

[Oberon]

Come on Oberon, one of those people in the article objecting happens to complain that there is a war on christianty, he is a good "christian" and shares good "christian" values with decent "christian" groups....he even paid the KKK so he could use their membership mailing lists
Nice people eh?

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Come on Oberon, one of those people in the article objecting happens to complain that there is a war on christianty, he is a good "christian" and shares good "christian" values with decent "christian" groups....he even paid the KKK so he could use their membership mailing lists
Nice people eh?

That's getting pathetic tribesman.
So far it had been entertaining though-don't let your standards fall.

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by Oberon

mc pixel

mc pixel-hammer is so sad hehe.

btw, I got around to reading the neanderthal funking topic.... lmao

[Sledgehammer427]

btw, I got around to reading the neanderthal funking topic.... lmao

had to read that twice

and I always played a little game when I see asterisks. although I know what they mean, I grab a dictionary and pick a 4-letter word at random. Todays word was "beer"

Le "Beer" hits the fan in 3.. 2.. 1..

And thats alcohol abuse.

As for the original topic...nevermind.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Frankly I think the fairest choice of all is to keep religion out of this. If individual churches and other places of worship wish to do something, let them as that is the place to do it, but I don't think it should be a part of official commemorations (I am not very much in favor of the whole thing to begin with).

There is wisdom in these words. "Fair" can be represented by neutrality.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

had to read that twice

and I always played a little game when I see asterisks. although I know what they mean, I grab a dictionary and pick a 4-letter word at random. Todays word was "beer"

And thats alcohol abuse.

As for the original topic...nevermind.

I like this, and I also like your signature. A2A Accusim for the win!


Anyway, I shall just respond to the topic at hand with one little gem from a man who I have a lot of respect for:

That's getting pathetic tribesman.

Do you think a theocrat who assosiates with the KKK is a good person to be calling for a change in the way the NY remembrance event happens?
Maybe you are happy to have a "preacher" who paid and worked politically with someone who is a holocaust denier.... but more to the point on this particular topic says it was the jews and Israel who carried out the attacks on 9/11. but for me idiots like that are a real insult to those that died that day, and for those pricks to be pushing their political/religious agenda on such an occasion is quite frankly sickening.

"Fair" can be represented by neutrality.

Exactly, just as it has been in the past decade