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[MH]

LOL to this thread.
Maybe you should start talking about islamophobia and meaning of words in Koran.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by MH

LOL to this thread.
Maybe you should start talking about islamophobia and meaning of worlds in Koran.

As I said, most of the members are above this sort of behavior.

[Gerald]

Quite right Tak, but some "are" happy that the thread gets out and changes shape ... which is certainly not uncommon in GT ... and the result becomes inevitable, the thread is closed.

I haven't seen any discussion regarding Christianity in this thread.

Indeed, it has been touching on "christianity" which is different.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Perhaps I do have a selective memory. Comes with old age, I guess. Just because one side does it doesn't make it "right" or ok for the other to do so. Both should be called out for it.

And I didn't say differently. I just pointed out your comment "Didn't used to be like that, and its kinda sad it has gotten that way now", and mentioned that it has always been like this. Wrong? Perhaps, and maybe it should be more controlled. But where to draw the line?

I thought that was the purpose of the rules and having moderators - to keep the flaming of others and their thoughts to a minimum so that civil discussion could take place. I remember there use to be very good political debates on many subjects in GT - done with class and respect. Take Mookie - he and I disagree vehemently on a slew of topics - but he has always been respectful and reasonable in his discussions - as I hope I have. Skybird tends to be another example of the same thing - people can be reasonable and discuss things without having to mock someone with an opposing opinion.

I agree, but I wouldn't know where to begin. If I had my way it would be a lot more controlled, but given my background and tendencies, it would probably end up being over-controlled, and everyone would leave.

As for Tribesman, I've tried to get him to see the difference between debating someone and ridiculing them, but he doesn't seem to know or care, and there's nothing I can do about it.

Regarding this particular thread, Platapus only mildly insulted those who oppose gay marriage. Rilder on the other hand did indeed mention the Christian God, but his only attack was on the belief in creationism, not Christianity itself. I think you saw a lot more in it than was actually there.

Just because I don't currently play subsims doesn't mean Subsim.com can't be a home for me, or others in similiar situations. Sorry you seem to feel that should not be the case.

I don't feel that way at all, and I wasn't referring solely to you. On the other hand I notice that there are a handful of people who never take part in any of the "fun" threads. That says a lot to me.

But I agree. Just because GT needs to be a little looser than other forums doesn't mean it should be open to trolling and personal attacks, which at this point it certainly is. On the one hand I think you overreacted to the original posts in this thread. On the other I don't think that, or anything else, warrants the treatment you've been recieving. It needs to stop, and for good.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Indeed, it has been touching on "christianity" which is different.

From where I am sitting, it looks a lot more like trolling, which is something different indeed.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Castout

Yeah. If you really don't believe in God why hate the idea so much. So many of these people are anti-religion and anti God instead simply not believing in the concept of God. In plain words: They hate the very idea and notion of God and they lash it out on the believers. That too me is another form of radicalism, no better than Islamic fundamentalist.



This is too. The word most atheists don't understand is tolerance. I tolerate atheist beliefs. I expect the same from them.

haha. hahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa! oh the hypocracy...

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire

However, the reason religion gets bashed is because of its over-extending of its boundaries. lotta people saying they want a bigger role of religion in politics, and creationism taught in schools, and religion's involvement in yet another form of discrimination, the hating of gays, and the attack on atheism.

Spare me your "but IM the victim" nonsense.

[Armistead]

I'm all for mating and I play sh4, all I can add to the debate....

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My biggest problem with General Topics these days is the number of people who post here but seemingly no longer post anywhere else. GT is for all things not concerning subsims, but it is still part of Subsim.com. If GT was closed down tomorrow what would most of you do?

I personally don't play Silent hunter much, both IV and V are installed I just haven't been able to get lost in them like I used to be able to. I do however tend to hang around General Game Discussion and even Tanksim to see if anything has been posted in the World of Tanks threads, (Though I HATE the backround on that subforum)

Usually though if the community is good then I'll stick around even if I don't play the game, I barely if ever play Dwarf Fortress these days but I'm on the Bay12 forums ALL the time, I even stick around on an IRC channel for a game I don't play because a few of the people who hang out on it are very close friends to me. When your interested in being in a community then why shouldn't you stick around just because you don't play much anymore?

[Sailor Steve]

Wasn't referring to you, Rilder. I sometimes see people who I've never seen on any other forum, and I wonder how they got here. Anyway, it was nothing more than my opinion, which counts for pretty much nothing.

And that's as it should be.

[Reece]

Even with that big Mongo!

From where I am sitting, it looks a lot more like trolling, which is something different indeed.

Is it though?
If someone writes in a topic complaining that people are attacking Christianity then that becomes a topic for debate.
Since the best way to debate is to get to the core of the issues, which in regards to Christianity must have scripture and theology very high on the list.
If it is easily demonstrated that a complaint about Christianity is from someone whose knowledge is so bad on the subject that it is frequently directly contradictory to it its cores then it does establish a lack of validity in that persons position.
Once that is established then nearly every topic where that person brings up Christianity can be handled in the same way.
It could even be said that Haplo with his "christianity" is repeatedly trolling Christians.

[CaptainHaplo]

It is trolling (or worse) when you admit - as you did (and which is demonstrated by a quick forum search) that you purposely follow a specific individual and repeatedly post after him/her with the intent and outcome to demean and diminish your target.

The history of your actions is right in the search field. Anyone can look at it. You have continually and intentionally followed and launched personal attacks against me, even during the very long time I have ignored you. You have never wanted discussion, you have wanted to start drama. Discussions are for people who can hear (or in this case: read) you. You did this because you have a personal beef. Subsim isn't the place for that. Its for conversation, not flaming individuals.

And whats sad, at the end of your above post, you prove the point. You first say its about Xtianity - but your last statement shows - you were/are really just trying to make it all about me - in a negative way - yet again.You just can't let it go....

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

On the other hand I notice that there are a handful of people who never take part in any of the "fun" threads. That says a lot to me.

Everyone come to the comment thread!
(We have cookies too.)

Originally Posted by Armistead

I'm all for mating and I play sh4, all I can add to the debate....

That's surprisingly lot. Before reading this post, I was staring in disbelief and shaking my head. After reading it, I was smiling and soon started laughing. Thanks, Armistead.

Edit @Haplo:

Its for conversation, not flaming individuals.

I agree. Which is why in the other thread concerning religion I asked you a direct and (in my opinion) reasonable question regarding what you said. You chose to ignore it, yet I assume I am not on your ignore list. I'm just curious if you missed it or if it was intentional (the thread has now sunk, so no point in dwelling on the question, but I became honestly curious now that you put it that way.)

[Osmium Steele]

I recall reading an article which stated that there is no "red hair/fair skin/freckles" gene in the various strains of the human genome which migrated out of africa.

Since the genes controlling these attributes are seemingly connected, they could not have evolved in the short time since homo sapiens sapiens migrated to Europe.

The conclusion was that neanderthals were a bunch of gingers, and they did not disappear, but became modern Europeans through interbreeding.

Interesting, if true.