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[CaptainHaplo]

Well one thing about Subsim that always made it feel like home was that members could discuss things reasonably. Instead its just "attack" what you don't like - discussion be naught needed. "Attack" just because you can, even if your flaming of whatevr you don't like has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Never waste an opportunity to slam others who don't agree with your views, eh?

Didn't used to be like that, and its kinda sad it has gotten that way now.

Well one thing about Subsim that always made it feel like home was that members could discuss things reasonably.

It's rather hard to have a reasonable discussion on any science with a cretinist and it is equally hard to discuss the tenets of faith with a "christian" who doesn't know his own religion.

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Amazing how everything has to be turned into an attack on Christianity....

For the record my wasn't an attack I was just poking a little fun.

[CaptainHaplo]

Rilder, unfortunately the atmosphere in subsim has gotten to the point where nearly any comment related to Xtianity is met with ridicule. While you may have meant it in fun, note that more than one person decided to then "pile on". Humor is great - we all enjoy it, its just unfortunate that some here have to react with hostility to anything that mentions the Almighty.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Didn't used to be like that, and its kinda sad it has gotten that way now.

You have a selective memory. It has indeed always been like that. Perhaps you have forgotten Subman1 and Frame57, who took every opportunity to ridicule anything that wasn't Christian or Conservative, which was of course hardly a Christian attitude. This week there are more atheists than believers, and next year the pendulum might swing the other way. Or not.

I thought Platapus's post was extremely witty. Rilder's I thought was a little too harsh. On the other hand should people not say what they think? At what point does a joke become an attack?

My biggest problem with General Topics these days is the number of people who post here but seemingly no longer post anywhere else. GT is for all things not concerning subsims, but it is still part of Subsim.com. If GT was closed down tomorrow what would most of you do?

unfortunately the atmosphere in subsim has gotten to the point where nearly any comment related to Xtianity is met with ridicule.

Comments related to Christianity are met as comments about Christianity.
Comments about Islam are met as comments about Islam.
Comments by "christians" on Christianity are met in the same way as a "druid" would be met if he was talking about the faerie folk living in that ancient whitethorn over there while he was pointing at a sycamore tree.

I thought Platapus's post was extremely witty.

On so many levels too.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Amazing how everything has to be turned into an attack on Christianity....

Yeah. If you really don't believe in God why hate the idea so much. So many of these people are anti-religion and anti God instead simply not believing in the concept of God. In plain words: They hate the very idea and notion of God and they lash it out on the believers. That too me is another form of radicalism, no better than Islamic fundamentalist.

Originally Posted by Morts

More like an attack on ignorance, which is really what creationism is.

This is too. The word most atheists don't understand is tolerance. I tolerate atheist beliefs. I expect the same from them.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My biggest problem with General Topics these days is the number of people who post here but seemingly no longer post anywhere else. GT is for all things not concerning subsims, but it is still part of Subsim.com. If GT was closed down tomorrow what would most of you do?

Post in GT in another forum

Honestly submarine simulation is now a dying genre.

If you really don't believe in God why hate the idea so much. So many of these people are anti-religion and anti God instead simply not believing in the concept of God. In plain words: They hate the very idea and notion of God and they lash it out on the believers.

And that is absolute bollox.

The word most atheists don't understand is tolerance. I tolerate atheist beliefs. I expect the same from them.

The issue people have in that vein is not really about tolerance of religion or anything even remotely like that.
That is purely an issue where people no matter what their religious or non religious views are objecting to "religion" being sold as science.

Honestly submarine simulation is now a dying genre.

No it was a niche genre and remains a niche genre.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You have a selective memory. It has indeed always been like that. Perhaps you have forgotten Subman1 and Frame57, who took every opportunity to ridicule anything that wasn't Christian or Conservative, which was of course hardly a Christian attitude. This week there are more atheists than believers, and next year the pendulum might swing the other way. Or not.

I thought Platapus's post was extremely witty. Rilder's I thought was a little too harsh. On the other hand should people not say what they think? At what point does a joke become an attack?

My biggest problem with General Topics these days is the number of people who post here but seemingly no longer post anywhere else. GT is for all things not concerning subsims, but it is still part of Subsim.com. If GT was closed down tomorrow what would most of you do?

Steve,

Perhaps I do have a selective memory. Comes with old age, I guess. Just because one side does it doesn't make it "right" or ok for the other to do so. Both should be called out for it. I thought that was the purpose of the rules and having moderators - to keep the flaming of others and their thoughts to a minimum so that civil discussion could take place. I remember there use to be very good political debates on many subjects in GT - done with class and respect. Take Mookie - he and I disagree vehemently on a slew of topics - but he has always been respectful and reasonable in his discussions - as I hope I have. Skybird tends to be another example of the same thing - people can be reasonable and discuss things without having to mock someone with an opposing opinion.

At one time there was a guy here who followed me around and had to post after just about every one I made. Name was Tribesman, and no matter what was said, he had to find a way to ridicule it and attempt to denigrate me, personally as well. Thing is, he tended to do the same to others. I finally got to the point where I had to put him on my ignore list simply because it seemed to be personal for him. Its gotten that way anytime something regarding Xtianity is mentioned. It doesn't even have to be mentioned by a person of faith - people will relate anything they can to the subject just to hold it up for ridicule. Anything faith related is a personal affront to some people and they react by ridiculing the subject and anyone who chooses to associate with it.

The Radio Room forum is not the place for flaming, spewing, or otherwise mouthing off. We do not allow posts where people are called idiots, morons, etc.

I just did a quick search and found ole Tribesman still is following me around. Pity - but it showed up something. Search the word "cretinist" and you will find him using it to denigrate and insult anyone who chooses to put faith in the Bilblical Creation. Even using his own reference to the definition, the word is an insult. But multiple times he has been allowed to use it without repercusion. Unfortunately, the GT forum has gotten to where this is allowed. Just as starred out words have become much more the norm, so has the lack of common courtesy regarding certain topics or in speaking with other people. Both losses are a pity. At least one is being addressed.

As for your point on GT - I only post here and in the PC subforum nowadays with the occasional foray into the Other Games section. I don't have SH5, am getting the hang of Actuv and can't contribute there yet. SH3/4 w/GWX are not even installed (am changing pc's soon). Between work, my children (am a single parent) and all that life entails, I don't have the time to visit and post in every forum, nor do I feel like it. Just because I don't currently play subsims doesn't mean Subsim.com can't be a home for me, or others in similiar situations. Sorry you seem to feel that should not be the case.

Name was Tribesman, and no matter what was said, he had to find a way to ridicule it and attempt to denigrate me, personally as well.

Indeed, "false preacher", "un-christian" and "hypocritical" were common terms relating to Haplo posts.

I finally got to the point where I had to put him on my ignore list

That magic ignore list which amazingly stops me from pointing out how often you show how your personal "christianity" is in direct contradiction with the book.

I just did a quick search and found ole Tribesman still is following me around.

Yes because despite the protestations from "christians" it is the bible bashers who don't know their bible who are the people who are insulting Christianity.

Search the word "cretinist" and you will find him using it to denigrate and insult anyone who chooses to put faith in the Bilblical Creation.

Cretnists are generally people who don't know the book they are putting their "faith" into, as such they themselves insult what they claim to stand for.
It is impossible to denigrate and insult such people for putting their faith in the bible as they clearly are not.
As a basic rule cretinists lack the faith they rather loudly claim to have.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Indeed, "false preacher", "un-christian" and "hypocritical" were common terms relating to Haplo posts.

Sigh.... Still personally attacking people because you can't debate rationally I see. Go outside, see the sun and feel the wind and breath the fresh are on occason. You might find the world isn't a place where you have to lash out all the time.

That magic ignore list which amazingly stops me from pointing out how often you show how your personal "christianity" is in direct contradiction with the book.

No, that useful ignore list that has kept me from having to endure your personal harrassment simply because we have differing opinions. Contrary to what you would prefer everyone think, you are not able to judge me or my views and beliefs. You can try, but your judgements are of no consequence, thus you were relegated to the ignore list.

Yes because despite the protestations from "christians" it is the bible bashers who don't know their bible who are the people who are insulting Christianity.

Internet stalk people much? Nice of you to admit thats what you have been doing with me for what - a couple of years of more now? Amazingly, other than your admission that you follow me around and try to insult me continually, I am astounded by the rest of the sentence. You are actually correct: "it is the bible bashers who don't know their bible who are the people who are insulting Christianity.". Those that don't know the Bible and bash it are those who insult Christianity. Well done on that at least.

Cretnists are generally people who don't know the book they are putting their "faith" into, as such they themselves insult what they claim to stand for. It is impossible to denigrate and insult such people for putting their faith in the bible as they clearly are not. As a basic rule cretinists lack the faith they rather loudly claim to have.

Funny, review the definition you pointed to in this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...3&postcount=51

It does not say what your claiming now (oops - busted - gotta change your story!). It does however make it clear that "cretinists" are worthy of being mocked. It is an insult, and you clearly use it as such. Backpedaling was a good try, but if anyone were actually concerned about the disrespect and lack of courtesy here, you'd get hammered. Somehow I would have thought that Neal and Takeda would have put a stop to intentional, blatent and now admitted harrassment. Guess your lucky that the moderators have turned a blind eye to your continued antics.

[Gerald]

Sigh.... Still personally attacking people because you can't debate rationally I see.

It is a perfectly rational debate, you don't know your scripture, you have very little understanding of theology, you make cliams about your "faith" that repeatedly show how little of the faith you claim to follow you understand.
All perfectly rational, all directly relating to what you write , what you claim and all are things that you repeatedly ran from as you are unable to address them.

Amazingly, other than your admission that you follow me around and try to insult me continually,

English no good for you?
Read what was written

You are actually correct: "it is the bible bashers who don't know their bible who are the people who are insulting Christianity.". Those that don't know the Bible and bash it are those who insult Christianity. Well done on that at least.

So you don't understand english, or do you
Read what was written
You are one of those bible bashers

Funny, review the definition you pointed to in this post

A perfectly valid definition.

It does not say what your claiming now (oops - busted - gotta change your story!).

You are having English problems again Haplo
Read what was written
Read through the statements and work out what the words mean, it is very easy.
Besides which even if you ignore the basic facts, that link was to rubbish the claim that it wasn't a word.
So as what you wrote would be an example of you trying to misrepresent something does that constitute a lie which a Christian would think is an example of a "christian" commiting a rather silly sin

Is this in fact a rather good illustration that perhaps the reason why your "christianity" is so un-Christian and your bible knowledge is so full of huge gaping flaws might be simply because you have difficulty with language?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It's rather hard to have a reasonable discussion on any science with a cretinist and it is equally hard to discuss the tenets of faith with a "christian" who doesn't know his own religion.

I haven't seen any discussion regarding Christianity in this thread. What I is do see a few people trying to score some cheap points at the expense of some others' core beliefs, and one other person continuing to troll someone he doesn't get along with. Thankfully, most of the members of this forum are above this sort of behavior.