Linux?

Capt. Morgan · 08-11-11, 08:49 PM

Yeah, I think of my WinXP partition as my game console.

GoDeep · 08-16-11, 09:55 AM

I run SH3 under wine on Fedora 15 quite successfully. I even added GWX3 Gold and SH3 Commander, which all run fine. It didn't take all that much special effort, if I remember correctly. I can't check now because I'm at work but I'll get back to you when I am home. As to the no smoke and no visible fire, yes there is a bug with that.

GoDeep · 08-16-11, 02:51 PM

I promised to get back to this thread, so here it is. I checked what I did to get it to work and I was surprised at how little effort it took, really.

Very important, make sure you get a recent version of wine! From wine version 1.3, it should work.
Next, install the game as you would in Windows, by running the installer from the DVD. I am running the EMEA version, patched to 1.4b. The DVD should mount automatically, but I am not familiar with Linux Mint, so I'm not sure how it works there. I have had success with Fedora and openSUSE. Install the Windows Media 9 codecs too.
Next, install the patch if your game is not pre-patched.
An icon should have been created automatically for the game. From that, you can launch it and it will run.
I set up some options in winecfg to allow SH3 to run a little more smooth.
- I set wine to act as if it is Windows XP
- I set it to emulate a virtual desktop with 1024X768 pixels, because SH3 can't cope with my native resolution. That means SH3 runs in a window, but that doesn't bother me. I am actually pursuing a convoy as I am writing this, which is not possible in full screen resolution.

I added GWX 3 and SH3 Commander the same way as I did on Windows. No special settings were required.

There are two glitches which are annoying, but I can live with them. YMMV:

There are no visible fires or smoke when looking up close, only when zoomed far out. And I do mean far! This is actually more of an issue with the SH3 engine than with wine itself, but it makes the game less enjoyable.
You can't actually launch the game from within SH3 Commander. If you launch it that way, it will complain about not being able to initialize the 3d engine. However, starting SH3 directly after that, it says it's loaded from SH3 Commander and any options are carried over. A minor annoyance.

I am currently in a career, in my 10th patrol and the game has been very smooth, no crashes or anything. If you absolutely need fires and smoke, stay on Windows, otherwise come join us on Linux, where all the cool kids play....

Capt. Morgan · 08-16-11, 08:05 PM

And thanks for the tip on SH-Commander!

Guess I don't have enough oomph for GWX, ah well, NYGM rocks too.

There is even a fix for the smoke issue, If you're willing to alter some values in the Wine source code and recompile. Love open source!

GoDeep · 08-17-11, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

There is even a fix for the smoke issue, If you're willing to alter some values in the Wine source code and recompile. Love open source!

Yes, I knew about the patch for fire and smoke but since the OP asked if it was even possible to run SH3 under wine, I thought that recompiling wine from scratch might be a bit too far.

Plus, I've read that the patch has produced different results for different people, so I thought I'd not mention it.

GoDeep · 08-18-11, 03:35 PM

For those interested, I wrote up a little "how to" on how to apply the patch for the wine source code and then compile wine yourself so you get fire, smoke and spray effects in wine under Linux.

You can find it here: http://beris.nl/jb/?p=306

Capt. Morgan · 08-18-11, 04:21 PM

Wow! Very thorough and clear tutorial

I'll give it a try after I've completed upgrading my distro.

08-11-11, 08:49 PM	#1
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I think of my WinXP partition as my game console. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

08-16-11, 02:51 PM	#3
GoDeep Planesman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I promised to get back to this thread, so here it is. I checked what I did to get it to work and I was surprised at how little effort it took, really. Very important, make sure you get a recent version of wine! From wine version 1.3, it should work. Next, install the game as you would in Windows, by running the installer from the DVD. I am running the EMEA version, patched to 1.4b. The DVD should mount automatically, but I am not familiar with Linux Mint, so I'm not sure how it works there. I have had success with Fedora and openSUSE. Install the Windows Media 9 codecs too. Next, install the patch if your game is not pre-patched. An icon should have been created automatically for the game. From that, you can launch it and it will run. I set up some options in winecfg to allow SH3 to run a little more smooth. I set wine to act as if it is Windows XP I set it to emulate a virtual desktop with 1024X768 pixels, because SH3 can't cope with my native resolution. That means SH3 runs in a window, but that doesn't bother me. I am actually pursuing a convoy as I am writing this, which is not possible in full screen resolution. I added GWX 3 and SH3 Commander the same way as I did on Windows. No special settings were required. There are two glitches which are annoying, but I can live with them. YMMV: There are no visible fires or smoke when looking up close, only when zoomed far out. And I do mean far! This is actually more of an issue with the SH3 engine than with wine itself, but it makes the game less enjoyable. You can't actually launch the game from within SH3 Commander. If you launch it that way, it will complain about not being able to initialize the 3d engine. However, starting SH3 directly after that, it says it's loaded from SH3 Commander and any options are carried over. A minor annoyance. I am currently in a career, in my 10th patrol and the game has been very smooth, no crashes or anything. If you absolutely need fires and smoke, stay on Windows, otherwise come join us on Linux, where all the cool kids play....

08-16-11, 08:05 PM	#4
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	And thanks for the tip on SH-Commander! Guess I don't have enough oomph for GWX, ah well, NYGM rocks too. There is even a fix for the smoke issue, If you're willing to alter some values in the Wine source code and recompile. Love open source! __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey Last edited by Capt. Morgan; 08-16-11 at 08:22 PM.

08-18-11, 03:35 PM	#6
GoDeep Planesman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	For those interested, I wrote up a little "how to" on how to apply the patch for the wine source code and then compile wine yourself so you get fire, smoke and spray effects in wine under Linux. You can find it here: http://beris.nl/jb/?p=306 __________________ On sailor's grave there are no roses, On a seaman's grave there blooms no Edelweiss. The only ornaments are the white gulls And the many tears a girl is weeping. -- German folk song, sung by German seamen during the war.

08-18-11, 04:21 PM	#7
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	Wow! Very thorough and clear tutorial I'll give it a try after I've completed upgrading my distro. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

08-16-11, 09:55 AM	#2
GoDeep Planesman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I run SH3 under wine on Fedora 15 quite successfully. I even added GWX3 Gold and SH3 Commander, which all run fine. It didn't take all that much special effort, if I remember correctly. I can't check now because I'm at work but I'll get back to you when I am home. As to the no smoke and no visible fire, yes there is a bug with that.