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Old 08-11-11, 04:18 PM   #31
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This is on CNN. I give it no credit.
Why? Is there some reason why CNN is not credible? What would be better? Should I read something from Fox Noise Channel website?
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Old 08-11-11, 04:21 PM   #32
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Why? Is there some reason why CNN is not credible? What would be better? Should I read something from Fox News Channel website?
I gave up on all forms of media in relation to news. It's all pointing fingers, with "this will happen", stated so absolutely. Remember when unemployment wouldn't go higher than 8%? Remember when none of the agencies would downgrade our debt? How about when the mortgage bubble would never collapse - or when we would never enter the war in Europe during WWII? How about when major security breaches would never occur in the pentagon?
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Old 08-11-11, 04:24 PM   #33
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Rick Perry? Isn't he some kind of rock and roll personality?
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Rick Perry? Isn't he some kind of rock and roll personality?
I personally like him - tho that is a tentative statement. Him, Bachman, and Pawlenty (sp?) are my top 3 so far.
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Old 08-11-11, 05:20 PM   #36
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I gave up on all forms of media in relation to news. It's all pointing fingers, with "this will happen", stated so absolutely. Remember when unemployment wouldn't go higher than 8%? Remember when none of the agencies would downgrade our debt? How about when the mortgage bubble would never collapse - or when we would never enter the war in Europe during WWII? How about when major security breaches would never occur in the pentagon?
Well... I'm from Finland which when I last time checked wasn't part of the United States of America (thank God!) and therefore I wasn't aware of these. I'm also little bit too young to remember anything about pre-WWII time... I didn't exist yet.

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I personally like him - tho that is a tentative statement. Him, Bachman, and Pawlenty (sp?) are my top 3 so far.
I dislike republicans guess why? Two reasons: 1. George W. Bush - one Republican warmonger, no thanks to another 2. in my opinion excessive presence of religion (this applies in some extent to dems too). In last election I would have voted (in unlucky case of being American) McCain if Palin wouldn't have been Vice President candidate.

P.S. I don't have anything against citizens of United States of America, but since 2003 I have not trusted in any extent to U.S. federal government.
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If we're going to elect a Texan, vote for Neal.
Dude!!! Go wash your Nose real good. Just j\king
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Well... I'm from Finland which when I last time checked wasn't part of the United States of America (thank God!) and therefore I wasn't aware of these. I'm also little bit too young to remember anything about pre-WWII time... I didn't exist yet.

I dislike republicans guess why? Two reasons: 1. George W. Bush - one Republican warmonger, no thanks to another 2. in my opinion excessive presence of religion (this applies in some extent to dems too). In last election I would have voted (in unlucky case of being American) McCain if Palin wouldn't have been Vice President candidate.

P.S. I don't have anything against citizens of United States of America, but since 2003 I have not trusted in any extent to U.S. federal government.
Well then how about this, I dislike democrats because of lack of morality and Lyndon Johnson, FDR, all the Kennedy's, John Edwards, Bill Clinton, the (mainly) democrats that tried to stop the civil rights movement, Woodrow Wilson, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Jimmy Carter, Tim Geithner, pretty much everyone appointed by the current admin., the EPA, the ACLU, and trust me I can list hundreds of people and groups I have something against (also can think of a lot that I don't have much of anything against).

Can't make the face of a group someone who isn't influential anymore.

And Bush did a number of good things, especially during his 1st term.

Oh, war mongers, FDR and LBJ
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The following letter to the editor appeared in this morning's [Aug. 11, 2011] Los Angeles Times:

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

A warning from Texas; FDR and Obama; L.A.'s new football stadium

August 11, 2011
Texas, taxes and jobs

I am a visitor to California and a lifelong Texan. Imagine my surprise to encounter an anti-tax signature collector in San Diego arguing that California will lose jobs to Texas if taxes increase.

We Texans have already got all the minimum-wage, no-benefit jobs we can handle, along with lousy roads, a 19th century school system, a high poverty rate, hunger, lack of medical care and the highest rate of uninsured people in the nation. Our education system is declining, and much of the new jobs pay minimum wage. Texas is becoming third-world.

California has so much of what Texas lacks. Be happy to pay your taxes because you are getting so much for them. Tighten your belt and preserve the California you have while you can. Don't destroy California; you will regret it later.

Kathleen Bombach

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Sounds like your're "doin' a heck of a job", Rickie...

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A C and D student, who hates to govern, loves to campaign, and barely has a sixth grader's understanding of economics
Another under-achieving, lack-a-daisical, indifferent, self-absorbed Texas governor for President? Hmm...the last one took a thriving economy, a balanced budget, and a surplus and left the country in near bankruptcy...imagine what "best and brightest" Perry could due with our economy in it's present state...
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Texas has a $27 billion budget deficit. They're closing elementary schools, colleges and police departments.

See what I mean about people outside of Texas having no clue about Perry or the state's financial problems?
True, but that deficit is offset by $10 billion "rainy day" account, and that's not bad considering we've had the worst recession in 40 years.

As for closing schools, brother, you know they are building them like crazy. Come on with me, I'll give you a tour of the brand new schools in Pearland, Lake Jackson, Sugarland, etc. They may be closing schools in some places but I doubt it has anything to do with the budget.

As for closing police depts, that's a plus. Most communities have bloated law enforcement depts.


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In last election I would have voted (in unlucky case of being American) McCain if Palin wouldn't have been Vice President candidate.
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The following letter to the editor appeared in this morning's [Aug. 11, 2011] Los Angeles Times:

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

A warning from Texas; FDR and Obama; L.A.'s new football stadium

August 11, 2011
Texas, taxes and jobs

I am a visitor to California and a lifelong Texan. Imagine my surprise to encounter an anti-tax signature collector in San Diego arguing that California will lose jobs to Texas if taxes increase.

We Texans have already got all the minimum-wage, no-benefit jobs we can handle, along with lousy roads, a 19th century school system, a high poverty rate, hunger, lack of medical care and the highest rate of uninsured people in the nation. Our education system is declining, and much of the new jobs pay minimum wage. Texas is becoming third-world.

California has so much of what Texas lacks. Be happy to pay your taxes because you are getting so much for them. Tighten your belt and preserve the California you have while you can. Don't destroy California; you will regret it later.

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Old 08-11-11, 08:14 PM   #41
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Well, this is sure going to make it harder to secede.
Not at all. Wait till Governor Goodhair becomes president, then secede.
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She is an idiot, Neal. My sister lives in Austin. Says TX has never been better! My nieces say the say!
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The thing you have to realize Anthony is that foreigners like kraznyi_oktjabr don't have a clear view American society or our politics. They get small glimpses into our world without realizing that what they are seeing is mostly partisan propaganda aimed at influencing the most gullible of our domestic audiences.

When you filter that through the distortions of distance, culture and language it's no wonder they so often have such unrealistic views of us.

Of course this is a two way street. Our view of them is no more clear than their view is of us. It's why I try to refrain from making generalized comments about them (although I don't always succeed!)
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P.S. I don't have anything against citizens of United States of America, but since 2003 I have not trusted in any extent to U.S. federal government.
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It's why I try to refrain from making generalized comments about them (although I don't always succeed!)
Yeah, that's pretty typical of you New Englanders.
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