What's up with London? (riots, merged) - Page 35

Skybird · 08-10-11, 07:15 AM

A German comment that is spot on and that does not excuse the criminality seen on the streets as "social uprise of the disadvantaged", but concludes that it is laziness and comfortable self-victimization that lead to the illusion that one does not have to put own effort into trying to acchieve something in life, but that the others, that the state, thge the society is owing to oneself and thus and that one does not steal when one steals because one has a legimtimate natural right for it anyway. Why should anyone try to imorve his own situation and claim responsibility for his own life, if the fincial suzpport fro social wellfare is comiung in every month anyway, and just complaining and claiming to be a victim is so much easier than accepting responsibility and getting involved oneself in imporviong one'S own situation?

It is no just an uprise of the socially disadvantaged, but an amok run of people making too high claims towards society and who want to fall upwards without themselves contriobutijng to it by their own work and effort. It is no social revolutionaries, but criminals we see on the street. It is no call for social justice, but demand for being given even more social wellfare and additonal, non-vital luxury - for free.

Self-victimization is a great way of pushing the other on the defence. And we see it being used as a tactic so very often today. Migrants refusing to integrate, do it. Muslim communities use it. Socially parasytes do it. European nations in debt use it. Intzerest grouip and social "equal rights" groups use it. They all raise claims that they are being owed something by all others, due to their state of being "victims" of circumstances and present codnitioons. And mostly, none of them shows in return the solidarity they demand from others. And usually, none of them plans to ever question and change himself.

Riots like this, they say, are nothing new in Britain, and that there were such things already in the 80s. I saw looting, crminality, theft and robbery. What I did not see so far, is legitimate social uprise against injustice and supression. I say crack down on this criminal mob. It is not any different to the street wars we see in Berlin every year on May 1st. And those thugs in Berlin do not have any social ideal or agenda they fight for, although they claim that and try to hide their anarchy and thirst for violence and "action" as a "social revolution" - what they have, is just a hobby. It's called live action-entertainment.

I laugh right in the faces of these thugs, with this song video.

Hottentot · 08-10-11, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I dont care what you think

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How dare you even question what I wrote

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You are going straight onto my ignore list now.Good day!

Now there's a surprise.

Paul Riley · 08-10-11, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A German comment that is spot on and that does not excuse the criminality seen on the streets as "social uprise of the disadvantaged", but concludes that it is laziness and comfortable self-victimization that lead to the illusion that one does not have to put own effort into trying to acchieve something in life, but that the others, that the state, thge the society is owing to oneself and thus and that one does not steal when one steals because one has a legimtimate natural right for it anyway. Why should anyone try to imorve his own situation and claim responsibility for his own life, if the fincial suzpport fro social wellfare is comiung in every month anyway, and just complaining and claiming to be a victim is so much easier than accepting responsibility and getting involved oneself in imporviong one'S own situation?

It is no just an uprise of the socially disadvantaged, but an amok run of people making too high claims towards society and who want to fall upwards without themselves contriobutijng to it by their own work and effort. It is no social revolutionaries, but criminals we see on the street. It is no call for social justice, but demand for being given even more social wellfare and additonal, non-vital luxury - for free.

Self-victimization is a great way of pushing the other on the defence. And we see it being used as a tactic so very often today. Migrants refusing to integrate, do it. Muslim communities use it. Socially parasytes do it. European nations in debt use it. Intzerest grouip and social "equal rights" groups use it. They all raise claims that they are being owed something by all others, due to their state of being "victims" of circumstances and present codnitioons. And mostly, none of them shows in return the solidarity they demand from others. And usually, none of them plans to ever question and change himself.

Riots like this, they say, are nothing new in Britain, and that there were such things already in the 80s. I saw looting, crminality, theft and robbery. I say crack down on this criminal mob. It is not any different to the street wars we see in Berlin every year on May 1st. And those thugs in Berlin do not have any social ideal or agenda they fight for, althoiugh they claim that and try to hide their anarchy as a social revolution - what they have, is just a hobby. It's called live action-entertainment.

I laugh right in the faces of these thugs, with this song video.

Hi,

I hate them,just as much as I hate some of the sympathizers for them in this forum.People are terrified (especially the elderly residents) to go outside on my street do you know that?,thats just plain wrong if you ask me

There should be extreme force used in this extreme case,its not right that people have to live in fear in a developed country like ours.

Skybird · 08-10-11, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Hi,

I hate them,just as much as I hate some of the sympathizers for them in this forum.People are terrified to go outside on my street do you know that?,thats just plain wrong if you ask me

There should be extreme force used in this extreme case,its not right that people have to live in fear in a developed country like ours.

You sound a bit over-"emotionalised", if I may say so. Hate is not needed, nor any good. Determination is absolutely sufficient - that, and some delighted enthusiasm to re-establish the law.

max-peck · 08-10-11, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

How dare you even question what I wrote

Really?

max-peck · 08-10-11, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

but concludes that it is laziness and comfortable self-victimization that lead to the illusion that one does not have to put own effort into trying to acchieve something in life

And that is absolutely spot on.

Paul Riley · 08-10-11, 07:33 AM

You know,to those of you that have undermined,ridiculed,flamed and insulted me over the last few days I hope the rioters kick off in your neighbourhoods,drag you out into the street and kick your bloody heads in!,maybe then you will see sense,but I doubt even that could trigger the growth of brain cellls in your thick skulls!
This is outrageous that some of you even question what i'm saying during this tense time for law abiding English people,you have no shame,no decency,no balls and no brains!

You make me sick and I curse you!

Paul Riley · 08-10-11, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by max-peck

Really?

Yes,and?,what you going to do about it? do YOU have a problem with me too?.You enjoying these riots are you?,you enjoying what they are doing to people's lives?! you sick tw##s!
To even undermine the severity in this crisis only goes to show that some of you dont deserve to live in countries like ours,it makes me sick!

*thats another one to the ignore list*

Hottentot · 08-10-11, 07:38 AM

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do YOU have a problem with me too?.You enjoying these riots are you?

Newsflash: You and the Riots are not synonymous. The riots, neither England, neither the world revolve around you.

Paul Riley · 08-10-11, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

Newsflash: You and the Riots are not synonymous. The riots, neither England, neither the world revolve around you.

Kiss my a#s you little s##t!

Growler · 08-10-11, 07:39 AM

Paul -

Ease down, lad. You're becoming very emotionally invested in this, and while, on some levels, it's understandable, you're rapidly leaving reason behind.

I understand that you're scared - a lot of people in Britain are upset, nervous, and yes, scared right now. But responding and reacting from fear is not going to help the situation at all.

Deep breaths, now. Your city and neighbors need strength in rationality, not reactionism.

max-peck · 08-10-11, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Yes,and?,what you going to do about it?

Absolutely nothing.

That response sounds like you want to fight me or something.

Certainly not what I want.

Remember the conversation we had yesterday about calming down and not panicking?

But demanding that people aren't even allowed to question some of your assertions is a little bit over the top isn't it?

Hottentot · 08-10-11, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Kiss my a#s you little s##t!

First of all, I'm by no means little.

Second, your fantasies do not apply to me.

Third, as I suspected, your ignore list is not working.

Fourth, and I repeat: the world does not revolve around you, as much as you'd apparently like to think.

Lord Justice · 08-10-11, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Yes,and?,what you going to do about it? do YOU have a problem with me too?.You enjoying these riots are you?,you enjoying what they are doing to people's lives?! you sick tw##s!

Paul, try take it easy man. I do understand your concerns, and I am sensible to your feelings.

Paul Riley · 08-10-11, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Paul -

Ease down, lad. You're becoming very emotionally invested in this, and while, on some levels, it's understandable, you're rapidly leaving reason behind.

I understand that you're scared - a lot of people in Britain are upset, nervous, and yes, scared right now. But responding and reacting from fear is not going to help the situation at all.

Deep breaths, now. Your city and neighbors need strength in rationality, not reactionism.

My mother has been crying today,and with my father being in a care home I am limited in the amount of comfort I can offer her

08-10-11, 07:15 AM	#511
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,697 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A German comment that is spot on and that does not excuse the criminality seen on the streets as "social uprise of the disadvantaged", but concludes that it is laziness and comfortable self-victimization that lead to the illusion that one does not have to put own effort into trying to acchieve something in life, but that the others, that the state, thge the society is owing to oneself and thus and that one does not steal when one steals because one has a legimtimate natural right for it anyway. Why should anyone try to imorve his own situation and claim responsibility for his own life, if the fincial suzpport fro social wellfare is comiung in every month anyway, and just complaining and claiming to be a victim is so much easier than accepting responsibility and getting involved oneself in imporviong one'S own situation? It is no just an uprise of the socially disadvantaged, but an amok run of people making too high claims towards society and who want to fall upwards without themselves contriobutijng to it by their own work and effort. It is no social revolutionaries, but criminals we see on the street. It is no call for social justice, but demand for being given even more social wellfare and additonal, non-vital luxury - for free. Self-victimization is a great way of pushing the other on the defence. And we see it being used as a tactic so very often today. Migrants refusing to integrate, do it. Muslim communities use it. Socially parasytes do it. European nations in debt use it. Intzerest grouip and social "equal rights" groups use it. They all raise claims that they are being owed something by all others, due to their state of being "victims" of circumstances and present codnitioons. And mostly, none of them shows in return the solidarity they demand from others. And usually, none of them plans to ever question and change himself. Riots like this, they say, are nothing new in Britain, and that there were such things already in the 80s. I saw looting, crminality, theft and robbery. What I did not see so far, is legitimate social uprise against injustice and supression. I say crack down on this criminal mob. It is not any different to the street wars we see in Berlin every year on May 1st. And those thugs in Berlin do not have any social ideal or agenda they fight for, although they claim that and try to hide their anarchy and thirst for violence and "action" as a "social revolution" - what they have, is just a hobby. It's called live action-entertainment. I laugh right in the faces of these thugs, with this song video. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-10-11, 07:33 AM	#517
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	You know,to those of you that have undermined,ridiculed,flamed and insulted me over the last few days I hope the rioters kick off in your neighbourhoods,drag you out into the street and kick your bloody heads in!,maybe then you will see sense,but I doubt even that could trigger the growth of brain cellls in your thick skulls! This is outrageous that some of you even question what i'm saying during this tense time for law abiding English people,you have no shame,no decency,no balls and no brains! You make me sick and I curse you! __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

08-10-11, 07:39 AM	#521
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Paul - Ease down, lad. You're becoming very emotionally invested in this, and while, on some levels, it's understandable, you're rapidly leaving reason behind. I understand that you're scared - a lot of people in Britain are upset, nervous, and yes, scared right now. But responding and reacting from fear is not going to help the situation at all. Deep breaths, now. Your city and neighbors need strength in rationality, not reactionism. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.