What's up with London? (riots, merged)

[Paul Riley]

A chief inspector for the Met commented a while ago saying that CCTV footage they had of offenders would aid them in making arrests.Tell me,how do you go about making arrests against idiots wearing hoods and ski masks?,their identities are concealed.
I fully support the police in their almost impossible role here but I thought that statement was a bit odd.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I personally think there should be at the very least a military presence now,the country is practically under siege!,and it needs lifting,by force of arms.
Whats your take on this idea?

A step on a very slippery slope, that's my take, the road to hell is paved with good intentions mate, and if you bring in martial law, that's going to only inflame the situation further. Plus, most of our military is overseas at the moment anyway, so the only real forces we could muster are the TA.

I would wager that tomorrow during the daytime there is going to be a massive influx of police forces from across Britain into London, as there was during the G-20 protests, and then there's the possibility of a curfew being put in place officially tomorrow. There's also the possibility of water cannons being brought in from Ireland. I'd wager that the government will not bring in the armed forces, but they will go all they can up to before that point.
Besides, there's not a great deal the army could do anyway, even if they opened fire on looters, they would melt away into the side streets and go somewhere else. You ask any soldier what it's like trying to fight in a city environment, particularly when you'll have your hands tied up in red tape because it's the capital city of the UK, it would be a nightmare and would do very little to actually stop it unless you take a Syrian approach to matters and open fire on anything that moves and when we get to that point, well we're no longer worthy of being a modern nation.

Hopefully this will burn itself out tonight and tomorrow will be peaceful...but I'll be interested what conclusions this COBRA meeting comes to...I just hope that they don't use this situation for political gain and just make things worse...although I suspect, given this political party...they probably will.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

A chief inspector for the Met commented a while ago saying that CCTV footage they had of offenders would aid them in making arrests.Tell me,how do you go about making arrests against idiots wearing hoods and ski masks?,their identities are concealed.
I fully support the police in their almost impossible role here but I thought that statement was a bit odd.

Not all of them are wearing masks, this one isn't:

[Oberon]

Some images from the Boston Big Picture:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...don_riots.html

[Paul Riley]

A poor elderly woman has just been on Sky News crying and audibly very shaken,she awoke to noises in her home and one of these scumbags was stood in her bedroom.The police were later called,there was no response.I wasnt surprised,it is physically impossible to be in two places at once.

Poor old woman.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Some images from the Boston Big Picture:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...don_riots.html

Good god,its like the blitz all over again!
Some of the scenes on the news are very disturbing now,the speed and severity of the violence.I dont like how this is unfolding.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Not all of them are wearing masks, this one isn't:

He wants doing away with,and no,not because he's black,but because he is a heartless criminal with no respect for people's lives or property.I mean come on,we all have our gripes with this government etc but we dont all go around like this neanderthal ripping everything to pieces just because they get a bee in their bonnet,as usual!.
And this annoying 'gun' thing they do with their bloody hands all the time really gets me mad (a###holes)
And man is he fugly.

Sure glad I found the ignore button,tis great dont you agree?

Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense
Obviously not....."Good god,its like the blitz all over again!". .......a few burned buildings and vehicles, no sign of nazi bombers destroying whole swathes of the city and no big piles of dead bodies being pulled from the rubble

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense

Maybe its nonesense to you,but not to the poor buggers getting their homes and businesses looted and burned down.I'd like to see you call it nonesense to their faces.

<--- I dont think anything i've EVER wrote was that funny

So much for that ignore function eh

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense
Obviously not....."Good god,its like the blitz all over again!". .......a few burned buildings and vehicles, no sign of nazi bombers destroying whole swathes of the city and no big piles of dead bodies being pulled from the rubble

One or two others have made references to these events and the blitz today,did you ridicule their posts too?.Or is it because I have a great viking longship on my sig and you dont
NOTE - the blitz reference was related to the amount and scale of these fires which would infact remind a lot of war survivors of the blitz,not a reference to the Luftwaffe or swathes of corpses piled in the streets.God you love to twist things around and undermine serious stuff.This is a VERY serious situation now and ridicule on ANY level no matter how indirect is not appropriate.I am actually surprised that someone hasnt pulled you to one side about some of your comments and for baiting me earlier,trolling do they call it?.
But I guess i'm trolling right now so i'd better stop with this tone.

[Paul Riley]

By the way,check the news right about now,the amount of burning vehicles and buildings would number more than "a few".
Outrageous.

NOTE - the blitz reference was related to the amount and scale of these fires

Amount and scale.
A couple of fires in a couple of buildings in a few different locations


Oberon what you said earlier about the firearm, it appears now it was a converted replica and the only shots fired in the "shootout" were by the police, CO19 are apparently saying an officer fired two shots and one of those hit his colleague.

[Paul Riley]

And no sooner do I speak and it has now spread to Liverpool,many miles away from London.
So,who still thinks this is nothing and just me exagerating?,because to be honest i'm getting a bit scared now,and no doubt many others are.It is clear the police are unable to do anything here,they are being routed every time the rioters attack
I fear the outcome to all this,really I do.

Jim (if you're there mate) do you work for the Newscastle constabulary?.Has there been any word about all this at your end?,and do they have any advice for people in case it should flare up there?.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Amount and scale.
A couple of fires in a couple of buildings in a few different locations


Oberon what you said earlier about the firearm, it appears now it was a converted replica and the only shots fired in the "shootout" were by the police, CO19 are apparently saying an officer fired two shots and one of those hit his colleague.

Just pray Ireland isnt next,you never know with these animals now,we are all at risk.