What's up with London? (riots, merged)

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
I hardly think so, and I hardly think the japanese would think so.
Where one lives, is changable. What one is, is not.
I'm not british, and I'm not your mate.

Nationality has everything to do with it.
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.

Hmmm it appears you have been suspended so I reply in the hope that you will lurk and see this anyway. Your post contains some serious contradictions and as insulting as you tried to be, only serves to reveal your own true 'colours' as it were. I will try and answer your question as it is reasonably put. If your child 1) is born in Japan 2) learns Japanese as the first language 3) goes to Japanese school 4) grows to the age of adulthood in Japan, I would have to ask him/her what nationality they felt they belonged to and I'd put money on them saying they thought of themselves as 'Japanese' even missing out 2) i.e you enforced English as the first language. If they then stayed in Japan and had children of their own, would you still think of your grandchildren as not Japanese?

Now to your contradiction sir. You state 'Where one lives is changeable' well not if you have your way huh, Mr 'Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.' so where YOU live is changeable, but where someone who came from a different country is concerned they should all stay where they are? That is a really grotesque hypocrisy you're carrying with you there.

I must say that I am sorry for my incorrect assumption of your nationality being British, It's just you seem so passionate about the subject it was an easy mistake. Do you live in Britain then perhaps? I think I should also explain that in English the word 'mate' though normally used as a term of affection, can like in the case of my previous post, be used as an overtly polite term to include someone whom one finds offensive, mate.

Back on topic, again nationality has nothing to do with the continuing disturbances in central London, its basically a bunch of unruly kids vandalising whatever happens to be nearby, mixed with a few probably older criminal types taking the opportunity to loot whatever they can, I am being depressed at the amount of people trying to justify these criminal actions by blaming the 'strained relationship' between the police and the community, this is simply not true, these kids are out of control because we as a society we are too light on them. Kids are smart - thay are genetically pre-disposed, even designed to manipulate the adults around them. Teachers can no longer discipline children in schools. Kids under 18 can't be convicted like adults. The kids learn this and then abuse it to their own ends, quite naturally as they were in effect born to do. This anti-social behaviour then carries on into young adulthood having never been properly checked. Our education system and government is worthy of most of the blame, and to the parents the rest.